# NYC Doperfest...Redux?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 28, 2000, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493 "2000-04-28T14:31:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2000, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/61 "2000-05-22T15:01:27Z")

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I think I assumed this was implied, but I’m 20 without fake ID. So either we pick a place with a bouncer who only looks at the year, or pick a place that checks ID at the bar.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2000, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/62 "2000-05-22T15:07:21Z")

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**SwimmingRiddles** , dear, this is NYC, i’ve never encountered IDing at a bar other then someplace pretentious, or a club (which might usually be pretentious). Don’t worry 'bout it. Niether of the last 3 places mentioned ID. The Village Idiot (a hick bar in downtown Manhattan) encourages young women to drink, and young men to drink, and old, and middle aged… etc.  
and the SidewalkCafe is so full of underage drinkers i don’t think it’s an issue. Your’e taken care of woman.  
🙂 no worries.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2000, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/63 "2000-05-23T03:32:42Z")

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and bump…

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2000, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/64 "2000-05-23T22:49:43Z")

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The Ninth Precinct has been on a carding rampage recently. Most bars right now would card Bob Hope if he came in. We’ll have to pick someplace with food service to accomodate young dopers.

And as it happens, Sidewalk is not an option fo me. No further details are available on _that_ unfortunate little chapter in my life. But it’s just as well; **Green Bean** probably would have checked **SaxFace** into the motercycles parked outside anyway, and big trouble would have ensued.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2000, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/65 "2000-05-23T22:55:28Z")

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ruby foo’s anyone?  
moderately priced restaurant, great dim sum, plenty of alcohol, don’t have to dress up, and quite comfy…

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**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/66 "2000-05-24T03:51:32Z")

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Hold up. This is on a Sunday afternoon now? Don’t you people have _jobs_? Whatever. I’m down.

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**Author:** ![Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wonko_The_Sane)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/67 "2000-05-24T14:59:08Z")

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Ruby Foo’s sounds good. Dim Sum Yum! Always a good way to eat and talk. I like the idea! Plus, the underage 'dopers won’t have any troubles.

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**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/68 "2000-05-24T15:02:37Z")

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wait, sunday afternoon? How did that happen? Oy, my head.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/69 "2000-05-24T15:10:04Z")

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Swiddles  
Soulsling  
Lux Fiat  
DreamWorks  
Green Bean  
Billdo  
SaxFace  
Davew0071  
Wonko the Sane  
Manny  
Biggirl  
Uke Ike

The date: Sat, June 10th or Sun June 9th. Those of us with jobs would prefer the Saturday date.

The place: Ruby Foo’s, The Village Idiot, Peculiar’s. Also mentioned: Sweet Mama’s (in Brooklyn), Soulslings house (at 4 am in Queens), the Puerto Rican Day parade (in the Bronx)

The time: Hey, we haven’t even got the date pinned down yet!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/70 "2000-05-24T15:15:28Z")

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Ruby Foo’s? Ruby Foo’s is in fucking TIMES SQUARE!!! Plus, the last time I was there they poisoned me.

You want dim sum, let’s go to Chinatown.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/71 "2000-05-24T15:35:22Z")

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Amen to that. If dim sum is the thing, how about that place above the Sun Hop Sing at 21 Mott. I forget the name offhand, but they’re terrific. If the goal is more full Chinese meal, Sun Hop Sing is itself a great place.

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**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/72 "2000-05-24T15:45:14Z")

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My godfather, with whom I would be staying (hopefully, he hasn’t returned my or SisterRiddles’ emails…) is Chinese, so if we want to do dim sum, he’d be the guy to ask for a referral.

On top of being underage, I’m also a vegetarian. So while in my meat-eating days, Dim sum was enough to make me dance, now-a-days, I get brocolli chard. Mmmm… Just call me The Pain in the Dopers’ Asses.

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**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/73 "2000-05-24T15:46:27Z")

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My godfather, with whom I would be staying (hopefully, he hasn’t returned my or SisterRiddles’ emails…) is Chinese, so if we want to do dim sum, he’d be the guy to ask for a referral.

On top of being underage, I’m also a vegetarian. So while in my meat-eating days, Dim sum was enough to make me dance, now-a-days, I get brocolli chard. Mmmm… Just call me The Pain in the Dopers’ Asses.

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**Author:** ![SaxFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SaxFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaxFace)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/74 "2000-05-24T16:25:08Z")

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We need something for all ages, something that appeals to vegetarians, something large enough for 20 obnoxious people, something that doesn’t mind if we sit and prattle on for hours, something New Yorkish.

How about Lucky Cheng’s?  
Or New York Noodle Town?  
Or Bowery Bar?

Those are my contributions.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/75 "2000-05-24T17:03:11Z")

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This place is a **HUGE** spot, they don’t care how many people are coming. Helps to make a reservation at least the day before though, they can fit hundreds of people.  
and they have vegetarian. It’s one of the best in Chinatown.

Golden Dragon Restaurant Of Ny  
51 Division St, New York, NY 10002  
(212) 226-5087

Then there’s also Herban Kitchen, on Hudson and Spring,  
not strictly vegetarian, but organic, and they have lots of vegan and vegetarian dishes. It’s not open sunday though.  
I think the first is great. Huge space, can accomodate all of us, not expensive at all, everyone can eat. Not big on alcohol though. I also believe there’s a Ruby Foos downtown. I might be mistaken.  
Lucky Chengs is way overpriced and the food sucks. but its fun 🙂

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**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2000, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/76 "2000-05-24T23:11:54Z")

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Please, not Sunday. I’ll be there even so, but I really don’t want the spectre of **work** hanging over my head the whole time. I’d be much too well-behaved to have any fun or be any fun. Saturday, if it’s all the same to most of youse others. As far as where, all the Chinese places sound good. I can do Chinese.

But…Saturday, if you have a drop of mercy in your veins.

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**Author:** ![DreamWorks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DreamWorks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreamWorks)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2000, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/77 "2000-05-25T07:10:31Z")

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If we go Ruby Foo’s, I suggest the uptown one so we can pub crawl later. Although I’m down for authentic Chinese on Mott St. as well. And Manny, I did hear about the 9th Pct. thing.

Geez Riddles, Vegetarian and no ID. You do drink don’t you? This would be a terrible waste of a good human if you didn’t. 🙂 And in NYC, if you can see over the bar in most places, you’re generally OK. Hell, if you can spell “bar”…

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**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2000, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/78 "2000-05-25T12:36:50Z")

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Hell, Dreamworks, I come from an Irish family. We drink well and often. 😃 I second the motion for a Saturday event. I DO have to drive 7 hours home on Sunday, let’s remember.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2000, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/79 "2000-05-25T13:26:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*\*What have we got so far?
> 
> Swiddles  
> Soulsling  
> Lux Fiat  
> DreamWorks  
> Green Bean  
> Billdo  
> SaxFace  
> Davew0071  
> Wonko the Sane  
> Manny  
> Biggirl  
> Uke Ike
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> The date: Sat, June 10th or Sun June 9th **_scratch that, no sunday_.** Those of us with jobs would prefer the Saturday date.
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> The place: Ruby Foo’s, The Village Idiot, Peculiar’s. Also mentioned: Sweet Mama’s (in Brooklyn), Soulslings house (at 4 am in Queens), the Puerto Rican Day parade (in the Bronx)
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> The time: Hey, we haven’t even got the date pinned down yet! \*\*

ok, we’ve got the people, we’ve got the date, Saturday the 10th.  
Place: ?  
Time: ?

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2000, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-doperfest-redux/16493/80 "2000-05-25T15:12:51Z")

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I’d vote for a Chinatown resturant, then moving on to a bar in the area. We should be able to eat fairly cheaply and get food to meet most dietary needs (though probably not for cmkeller). I would suggest starting latish to give people (and particularly me, who is doing something out of town during the day) time to get there.

I’m not sure how many Ruby Foo’s there are, but the one on the Upper West Side, 76th and Broadway, is routinely mobbed on a Saturday night (or any other night, for that matter). I’d think we’d do better with Chinese place downtown. Also, I think a quiet, dive bar atmosphere works best for the talking and beer-swilling we tend to do.

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