# NYC Dopers - Help!  I shall be stranded in NYC!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 9, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967 "2004-12-09T18:36:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/101 "2004-12-25T01:53:06Z")

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If we’re going to be six, I’d better call and make a reservation! Shouldn’t be a problem, though, the tables and comfy chairs and sofas in the lobby are so close together we can break in two and easily chat back and forth.

It’s such a lovely, quiet, decompressing place, like stepping back into 1910. I love going there for a quiet tea at lunchtime, just to lower my blood pressure during issue-closing.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/102 "2004-12-25T01:55:36Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> Grand Central Terminal has a wine shop (as well as a really nice marketplace). I haven’t bought any wine from there myself, but I’ve been told it has a very nice selection.

Perfect! I know where that is without even consulting the many maps I printed out! Yay. And it’s near enough to most of the stuff I’ll be doing. Dahlink that’s just mahvaleous, aboslutely mahvelous!

I’m only bringing my one little wee backpack (I travel light, I tell ya) and I’ve always bee a little weird about bringing booze on the plane, for some reason. So that Grand Central wine shop sounds like it’s just what I’m looking for. I can go there after our lunch.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/103 "2004-12-25T01:58:35Z")

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> [@Eats\_Crayons](#):
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> So that Grand Central wine shop sounds like it’s just what I’m looking for. I can go there after our lunch.

That’s right in the direction of my office . . . Though I’ll be on my lunch hour, so I may have to leave before the rest of you.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/104 "2004-12-25T02:04:31Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> It’s such a lovely, quiet, decompressing place, like stepping back into 1910.

1910??? And me without a cloche!

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/105 "2004-12-25T02:08:10Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> That’s right in the direction of my office . . . Though I’ll be on my lunch hour, so I may have to leave before the rest of you.

If we promise to be good, can we meet Pwincess Pwecious and the Screaming Fashion Harpie?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/106 "2004-12-25T04:24:46Z")

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> [@Eats\_Crayons](#):
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> 1910??? And me without a cloche!

Dear, if you wore a cloche in 1910, you’d be the most fashion-forward girl in New York. Huge, tea-tray hats were still the mode back _then_.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/107 "2004-12-25T04:49:51Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Dear, if you wore a cloche in 1910, you’d be the most fashion-forward girl in New York. Huge, tea-tray hats were still the mode back _then_.

But I don’t like the tea-tray hats. I want a cloche. I wanna move into the 20s, dammit!

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/108 "2004-12-25T15:34:36Z")

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Pushy.  
😃  
**Eve** , on a slightly more serious note- please tell us a reasonable dress code for where we are having brunch on Monday? ( Lunch? Brunch? I suppose unless you’re a rock star, 1:00pm is lunch, isn’t it? ). I truly do not wish to show up appearing slovenly. Is a jacket required, or are a decent pair of pleated pants, wing-tip shoes, a lovely sweater and a glittering earring acceptable?

These people know you. Wouldn’t want to tarnish your Golden reputation.

😉

Please advise.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/109 "2004-12-25T15:39:21Z")

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My Gramma Shirley was quite the Flapper in her day, and somewhere in Mom’s albums are photos of Gramma resplendant in her [Cloche](http://nfo.net/usa/flapper_cloche.jpg).

OTOH, she didn’t favor the 1912 Titanic-Era [Fashion of the Day](http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/hatsfullsize/rusthat1910s.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/110 "2004-12-25T15:43:27Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> My Gramma Shirley was quite the Flapper in her day, and somewhere in Mom’s albums are photos of Gramma resplendant in her [Cloche](http://nfo.net/usa/flapper_cloche.jpg).
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> OTOH, she didn’t favor the 1912 Titanic-Era [Fashion of the Day](http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/hatsfullsize/rusthat1910s.jpeg)

The question is, of course… How would _you_ look in a cloche? 😉

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/111 "2004-12-25T15:58:29Z")

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Your grandmother was Louise Brooks? I _am_ impressed.

No dress code at the Algonquin. Jeans are fine. It’ll be cold, so most people will be bundled up in sweaters and such. White tie and evening gown not necessary. I’ll be wearing an office “sweater and skirt” outfit.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/112 "2004-12-25T16:04:01Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> I truly do not wish to show up appearing slovenly. Is a jacket required, or are a decent pair of pleated pants, wing-tip shoes, a lovely sweater and a glittering earring acceptable?

Polyster bolwing shirt and acid-wash jeans.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/113 "2004-12-25T16:05:25Z")

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Of course if you wear the bowling shirt, you’ll need a mullet too.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/114 "2004-12-25T16:06:07Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Your grandmother was Louise Brooks? I _am_ impressed.
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> No dress code at the Algonquin. Jeans are fine. It’ll be cold, so most people will be bundled up in sweaters and such. White tie and evening gown not necessary. I’ll be wearing an office “sweater and skirt” outfit.

–Whimper-- 😃

No dear, my grandmother was a true cutting-edge gal. Travelled the world, made friends wherever she went, was a Flapper, a Mom of 2, hard-working wigmaker, devoted wife and fashion plate- near as she could be on her pay.

There are a few photos of her in high dress, if I get ahold of them I’ll scan them. Quite beautiful.

She was not, however, Louise Brooks. Dammit. ( Imagine the points I’d score with **Eve** if she found out my gramma was an infamous silent film chanteuse??? Imagine??? The mind reels. Pardon the pun. Heh. )

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/115 "2004-12-25T16:11:48Z")

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A mullet, you say? Well, I **did** just have my hair cut to make me look more like Travis Tritt, circa 1998… hmm… A bit of Dippity-Doo, an unshaved face.

Yeah, I can deliver a mullet. I mean, if that’d make you happy.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/116 "2004-12-25T16:12:19Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Imagine the points I’d score with **Eve** if she found out my gramma was an infamous silent film chanteuse???

😕 “Silent film chanteuse”… Something’s not quite right there.

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/117 "2004-12-25T16:13:53Z")

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> [@Eats\_Crayons](#):
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> 😕 “Silent film chanteuse”… Something’s not quite right there.

Well see, she was such a good singer that you didn’t actually need to hear her…

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/118 "2004-12-25T16:14:42Z")

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She was a sublime mouther.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/119 "2004-12-25T16:20:05Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> She was a sublime mouther.

That’s filthy.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-dopers-help-i-shall-be-stranded-in-nyc/278967/120 "2004-12-25T17:15:13Z")

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