# NYC Mayor election thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085 "2025-06-24T17:40:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/1 "2025-06-24T17:40:57Z")

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I didn’t see a thread on this and it looks like an interesting race. Ranked choice voting is always interesting to me.

I’m also appalled that serial sexual abuser (and overall asshole) Cuomo is not only running, but one of the two polling leaders for the Democratic primary!

Mamdani seems to have run a very impressive primary race so far. I don’t live in NYC, but if I did I’d rank Lander first and then Mamdani second. I don’t know much about the others, but I’d never rank Cuomo.

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/2 "2025-06-24T17:47:53Z")

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Cuomo is a repellent turd. He should have been memory-holed with the other #metoo assholes.

It says a lot that the Dem establishment is working far harder to defeat Mamdani than they are to obstruct anything Trump is doing.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/3 "2025-06-24T17:49:40Z")

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That’s a great point. I’m really coming around to the position that present Democratic leadership is hopelessly broken and needs to be replaced.

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/4 "2025-06-24T18:57:28Z")

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I thought it was funny that the NYT released an endorsement against both leading candidates.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/5 "2025-06-24T19:21:13Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> It says a lot that the Dem establishment is working far harder to defeat Mamdani

Do you mean the New York party or the National party? Any specific examples? (I’m in Los Angeles, so New York doesn’t really get much coverage.)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/6 "2025-06-24T19:32:22Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’m really coming around to the position that present Democratic leadership is hopelessly broken and needs to be replaced.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuNvl5qXUAAsYdk.png) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuNvl5qXUAAsYdk.png)

> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Any specific examples?

Eye-rolling crap like this.

> **[Clinton backs Cuomo in NYC mayoral race, boosting scandal-scarred frontrunner](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-backs-cuomo-nyc-mayoral-race-boosting-scandal-scarred-frontrunner)**
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> Former President Bill Clinton endorses Andrew Cuomo in NYC's Democratic mayoral primary, highlighting his experience amid a tightening race against progressive Zohran Mamdani.

Clinton can’t be bothered to speak up against Trump, but the prospect of a genuine progressive upsetting a friend of the establishment gets his ass off the couch.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/7 "2025-06-24T19:45:22Z")

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The Democratic establishment really pisses me off.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/8 "2025-06-24T20:04:31Z")

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> **[As a Seventy-Two-Year-Old Democrat, Am I Too Young to Run for Congress?](https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/as-a-seventy-two-year-old-democrat-am-i-too-young-to-run-for-congress)**
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> Before I blew out all seventy-two candles on my birthday cake this year, I made a wish. I wished for something that had been gnawing at my soul eve...

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/9 "2025-06-24T20:32:32Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Clinton can’t be bothered to speak up against Trump,

What the fuck are you talking about?

> **[Bill Clinton on opposing President Trump's agenda: "We cannot throw the...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-clinton-on-opposing-president-trumps-agenda-we-cannot-throw-the-legacy-of-this-country-away/)**
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> The former president discusses the Trump administration's attempts to defy court orders; the Democratic Party's opposition to Trump; his own recent health scare; and former President Joe Biden.

First result when I googled “Clinton criticizes Trump”. There are plenty of other examples.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/10 "2025-06-24T20:38:21Z")

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🙄

Somebody went and asked him. So of course he answered. But he motivated himself to take the side of a serial abuser (hmm) against a progressive challenger.

And if you keep up the same level of hostility and anger, don’t expect a reply.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/11 "2025-06-24T20:45:38Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Somebody went and asked him. So of course he answered. But he motivated himself to take the side of a serial abuser (hmm) against a progressive challenger.

Bill Clinton offered the exact same level of support, unprompted, to Trump’s opponent, Kamala. You might have heard of her. So I don’t think _opposing Trump_ is an issue for Bill, prompted or unprompted.

You know who _did not_ endorse Kamala? That’s right: Zohran. He couldn’t be bothered to speak up against Trump, I guess.

Zohran is a progressive, and as he makes very clear, progressives are not liberals, and when push comes to shove, they leave the liberals out to dry.

Why on Earth would we expect a Liberal like Clinton to endorse a progressive like Zohran over a Liberal like Cuomo when Zohran couldn’t bring himself to endorse Kamala Harris over Donald Trump?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/12 "2025-06-24T20:46:36Z")

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I’ve also been mildly surprised by the apparent low interest in this election and, like iiandyiiii, I’m always interested in major elections which use ranked choice voting.

On social media there’s no shortage of vitriol posted against RCV, _including from people who don’t support either of the two leading candidates_. And since said vitriol is generally unaccompanied by any explanation, I’m once again left to speculate without a clue as to my opponents’ reasoning.

Any insights from anyone here?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/13 "2025-06-24T21:09:28Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> You know who _did not_ endorse Kamala? That’s right: Zohran.

**[He was hardly alone.](https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/kamala-harris-counter-endorsement/)**

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**Author:** ![Boudicca90](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boudicca90/32/16818_2.png) [@Boudicca90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boudicca90)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/14 "2025-06-24T21:30:08Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Zohran is a progressive, and as he makes very clear, progressives are not liberals, and when push comes to shove, they leave the liberals out to dry.

Good, because liberals haven’t done a damn thing to oppose MAGA, instead preferring to run to the right even more to try to appeal to the same assholes who are screwing us over. The progressives in the Democratic Party have been the loudest and most effective opposition from the very beginning.

Cuomo needs to go, along with all the slimy, geriatric do-nothings that infest the top echelon of the party. Go Zohran!

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/15 "2025-06-24T21:46:31Z")

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I saw polling which indicated a decisive generational schism, the yutes breaking heavily for Mamdani and over 44s bigly for Cuomo.

I don’t know much a bout Mamdani, I’m just encouraged by just about any rebellion against the current geriatric Dem leadership. Time for we young people to take charge.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/16 "2025-06-24T21:50:38Z")

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What is a yute?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/17 "2025-06-24T22:03:28Z")

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“Youth” in crude Chicago white workin’ class accent. Or that of most any other major old line northeast city.

  

My comment here is if the Left has turned into liberals and progressives who will _never_ vote for each other’s candidates, while the right has morphed into Hard Right Conservatives and Outright Fascists who will _always_ vote for each other’s candidates, well …

it’s about time for the left to simply shut down and allow the Rightists/Fascists to rule for a thousand years. Nose, meet face needing spiting. It will be bloody and no leopards needed.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/18 "2025-06-24T22:16:19Z")

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On a more operational question; ranked choice voting.  
How is being accepted/promoted?  
What issue was it being brought in to resolve?

Having voted that way (preferential) for almost a century, like the US adapting the secret (Australian) ballot … it’s good you are catching on! 🙃

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/19 "2025-06-24T22:20:02Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Eye-rolling crap like this.
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> [Bill Clinton endorses Andrew Cuomo in tight NYC mayoral Democratic primary | Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-backs-cuomo-nyc-mayoral-race-boosting-scandal-scarred-frontrunner)
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> Clinton can’t be bothered to speak up against Trump, but the prospect of a genuine progressive upsetting a friend of the establishment gets his ass off the couch.

Not some huge fan of the Democrat establishment here, but I don’t think Bill Clinton is really a good example of the “establishment”.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/20 "2025-06-24T22:40:29Z")

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Does anyone really think Zohran Mamdani, a guy with no experience running anything, will succeed in running one of the most complicated governments in the country? As a Socialist Democrat-leaning fellow myself, I worry that if he becomes mayor, he’s gonna fail spectacularly because the actual work of running schools, picking up garbage, plowing streets, fixing roads, working with the cops, etc has very little to do with his ideology as a Democratic Socialist, and will set back the movement. There has to be a step between state rep and Mayor Of NYC where he can get some executive experience.

I guess when it comes to running a city, I don’t get where it matters if the person is center-left or far-left. Can he or she manage a large city with a million moving parts and political relationships and a multi-billion dollar annual budget?

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