# NYC Mayor election thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085 "2025-06-24T17:40:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/301 "2025-07-07T15:49:06Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Was Mirko Karan there when Nancy Pelosi ordered Chuck Schumer to assassinate a young, charismatic Democratic candidate? > > I’m gonna go out on a limb and say, “no.”. That’s what I figured; but then, I don’t understand why multiple people keep bringing it up as if it means anything. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/302 "2025-07-07T15:51:18Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That appears to be an Australian ecologist? What relevance does he have to anything? My guess is that he has no relevance to anything, but people keep linking him here anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/303 "2025-07-07T15:55:39Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That’s what I figured; but then, I don’t understand why multiple people keep bringing it up as if it means anything. Because it’s funny? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/304 "2025-07-07T16:04:11Z")
Because it’s an amusing, succinct but accurate representation of the blatantly evident attitude of the entrenched and largely geriatric (Jeffries aside) Democratic Party leadership regarding “young, energetic candidates with fresh ideas who can excite voters”. So yes, it remains relevant. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/305 "2025-07-07T16:08:31Z")
It’s a joke. The punchline is that old established Democrats don’t actually want to be replaced by young charismatic people who don’t agree with them on every issue. Anyway, Mamdani immigrated when he was a small child. And i was born in this country. And i only learned after researching it for this thread that there’s a legal definition of “African American” that he doesn’t meet. Not that I’ve ever had occasion to care. But… It’s just not that big a deal. He didn’t get in. I’ll tell you a secret i inferred from interviewing a lot of kids for Harvard. Being an immigrant from Africa doesn’t actually gain you much preference (even before the ruling to stop doing that). Those African American preferences were for kids who grew up disadvantaged due to being Black, from families that inherited disadvantages from decades of racism. I’ve had some really promising kids who were Black immigrants from Africa, with professor parents, who weren’t accepted. If they’d been Black Americans, I’m pretty sure they would have been. This is really a nothingburger, and the news is that the NYT decided to publish a hit piece. Thus, the joke about assassinating charismatic young Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/306 "2025-07-07T16:11:18Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Because it’s an amusing, succinct but accurate representation of the blatantly evident attitude of the entrenched and largely geriatric (Jeffries aside) Democratic Party leadership regarding “young, energetic candidates with fresh ideas who can excite voters”. Yeah, so you say, but other than making this joke over and over again, you haven’t provided any evidence of this. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/307 "2025-07-07T16:11:59Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > It’s a joke. Hey, _I’m_ not the one who asked for a cite for Seal Team 6 Schumer! ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/308 "2025-07-07T16:12:28Z")
I was agreeing with you. My husband says I’m bad at agreeing with people 😟 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/309 "2025-07-07T16:13:23Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > This is really a nothingburger, and the news is that the NYT decided to publish a hit piece. Not just a hitpiece, but a hitpiece from data hacked/provided by a white supremacist, rushed out in order to “beat” a supposed scoop from another white supremacist, and used in exchange for hiding the white supremacist’s identity. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/310 "2025-07-07T16:13:25Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Yeah, so you say, but other than making this joke over and over again, you haven’t provided any evidence of this. The NYT article _is_ evidence of it. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/311 "2025-07-07T16:14:13Z")
Forget it, he’s rolling. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/312 "2025-07-07T16:16:40Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Those African American preferences were for kids who grew up disadvantaged due to being Black, from families that inherited disadvantages from decades of racism. You can bet that if one of those recent African immigrants, or their children, are stopped by the police, the police will treat them as “black people”, rather than inquiring as to their ancestry and the reason for their skin color. Heck, the same is probably true for a Maori in America, even though they’re about as far removed from “African” as it’s possible for a human to be. Racism isn’t logical. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/313 "2025-07-07T16:16:56Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > The NYT article _is_ evidence of it. The NYT article is evidence that the Democratic Establishment hates young and dynamic voices? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/314 "2025-07-07T16:24:01Z")
Where’s David Hogg these days? And why did _any_ Democrat support Andrew Cuomo, a **deeply** toxic candidate, over Mamdani and why do some continue to do so? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/315 "2025-07-07T16:26:19Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The NYT article is evidence that the Democratic Establishment hates young and dynamic voices? I imagine Pelosi and Schumer would be _thrilled_ by a young, dynamic _centrist Dem_ candidate who could inspire more turnout among young voters. If they ever find one, I’m sure they’ll go all out in supporting him. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/316 "2025-07-07T16:36:25Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Where’s David Hogg these days? He was kicked out of his position at the DNC for having a penis, because apparently the DNC has a rule about having the same number of officials who are male and female? Is Kalyn Free the “Democratic Establishment” now? She’s the one whose complaint led to Hogg’s removal. > [@Gyrate](#): > > And why did _any_ Democrat support Andrew Cuomo, a **deeply** toxic candidate, over Mamdani and why do some continue to do so? Because they strongly disagree with Mamdani’s policy? If there was a 30-something-year-old energetic liberal candidate, I’d support them over either Mamdani or Cuomo. But I draw the line at Social Democrats; anyone further on the spectrum than that is simply not politically aligned with me, just like anyone right of center is not politically aligned with me. Why would I support someone whose policies I disagree with? > [@Miller](#): > > I imagine Pelosi and Schumer would be _thrilled_ by a young, dynamic _centrist Dem_ candidate who could inspire more turnout among young voters. If they ever find one, I’m sure they’ll go all out in supporting him I agree (sort of, depending on what you mean by “centrist”. I assume you mean “a Liberal, not a Leftist”, in which case, yes). My question is, what’s _wrong_ with that? And while they’re certainly not jumping for joy about Mamdani, they’re also not literally or figuratively sniping his career. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/317 "2025-07-07T16:54:14Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Because they strongly disagree with Mamdani’s policy? > > If there was a 30-something-year-old energetic liberal candidate, I’d support them over either Mamdani or Cuomo. But I draw the line at Social Democrats; anyone further on the spectrum than that is simply not politically aligned with me, just like anyone right of center is not politically aligned with me. Why would I support someone whose policies I disagree with? I assume, then, you have no issue with progressives who refused to vote for Harris because they disagreed with her policies? I gather you’d still take issue with them because they support progressive policies, of course, because you disagree with progressive policies, but you’re generally okay with progressives staying home when the candidate is a centrist because centrists don’t represent them politically? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/318 "2025-07-07T17:03:50Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I assume, then, you have no issue with progressives who refused to vote for Harris because they disagreed with her policies? I have no issues with people who would support someone other than Harris in the primary. Sort of like the people who supported Cuomo over Mamdani. I don’t think people should stay home or vote Republican now that he’s the nominee, though. > [@Miller](#): > > I gather you’d still take issue with them because they support progressive policies, of course, because you disagree with progressive policies, I’m not sure which “progressive policies” you’re referring to. I’m generally supportive of most progressive policies (although progressive is a really fuzzy term that covers everything from liberals and social Democrats, who I like, to democratic socialists and full on tankies, who I don’t). > [@Miller](#): > > but you’re generally okay with progressives staying home when the candidate is a centrist because centrists don’t represent them politically? Did I tell anyone to stay home or vote Republican? Or even for Eric Adams the Trump puppet? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/319 "2025-07-07T17:07:26Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I have no issues with people who would support someone other than Harris in the primary. Sort of like the people who supported Cuomo over Mamdani. > > I don’t think people should stay home or vote Republican now that he’s the nominee, though. Okay, fair enough on that front. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/320 "2025-07-07T17:48:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And why did _any_ Democrat support Andrew Cuomo, a **deeply** toxic candidate, over Mamdani I have to suppose, that at the time they decided who to back, they figured one had a known, if admittedly degraded, fundraising record, network of “friends” on the inside, and ledger of owed favors. The other did not. BUT… more to the question: Hell, _their choice did not even **have** to be_ **Mamdani** vs. Cuomo. At filing time _Brad Lander_ was the best-established member of the Progressive wing, holding a citywide office as incumbent Comptroller. You’d expect him to have been the obvious un-Adams choice. But the ball takes funny bounces, doesn’ it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085.md?page=17)