# NYC Mayor election thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085 "2025-06-24T17:40:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/481 "2025-08-21T13:12:57Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > No, but the money was in a red envelope inside the chip bag: > > > The failed payoff — a wad of cash in a red envelope stuffed inside an opened bag of Herr’s Sour Cream & Onion ripple potato chips Lol, that’s hilarious - when your layers of camouflage start working against each other. You could make the “traditional Chinese gift” argument (badly), but not if you _also_ try to hide the red envelope inside a chip bag 🤦‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/482 "2025-08-21T13:42:54Z")
Yeah, that’s weird. The chip bag really lacks plausible deniability. Putting it inside a [brown envelope](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/nov/30/hamiltonvalfayed.stuartmillar) is far less blatant. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/483 "2025-08-21T14:42:43Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > An Adams advisor gave a reporter a potato chip bag filled with cash. > > WTF? Lmao > > How are the other candidates so terrible? It’s a city tradition. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/484 "2025-08-21T14:46:37Z")
All right, Mamdani, don’t hold back: > **[Adams attacks Mamdani over rent-stabilized apartment](https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2025/08/20/mayor-adams-mamdani-andrew-cuomo)** > > Mamdani punched back at his critics. In addressing Cuomo’s run as an independent: > [@](#): > > Andrew Cuomo is a man [who] doesn’t understand that no means no. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/485 "2025-08-21T14:50:08Z")
Cuomo admitting that he is holding conversations with Trump seems a peculiar method for attracting votes in a jurisdiction that pretty much hates our Big Beautiful Orange President. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/486 "2025-08-21T14:57:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s not about age - it’s about being unable to recognize the moment we live in and how to respond. I think the national leadership does recognize the moment. It seems like the vocal majority in this forum feel that the way back to power for the left is to steer towards the radical and progressive. I think that’s the way to ensure we will be talking about President Vance in the not to distant future. This year’s elections are relatively unimportant compared to other years. Narionally the NYC mayor’s race doesn’t mean much. What can mean a lot is the party’s national leadership putting their weight behind a socialist. At the very bottom of the list of who Americans would even consider voting for are socialists. That’s below atheist. Below gay. Far below any ethnic group. Backing socialism is a losing proposition for the foreseeable future. The election of a mayor even in NYC is not important enough to the big picture to push anything that will hurt. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/487 "2025-08-21T15:02:26Z")
Even if you’re right, then that means the party leadership is guaranteeing their own extinction, since it’s incredibly clear that the Democratic party faithful want active fighters, not kowtowers and do-nothings. And I think you’re wrong on socialism. Things change. Maybe we’ll find out. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/488 "2025-08-21T15:08:58Z")
Presumably he’s hoping to sway would-be Republican voters from Staten Island and Borough Park. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/489 "2025-08-21T15:17:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Even if you’re right, then that means the party leadership is guaranteeing their own extinction, since it’s incredibly clear that the Democratic party faithful want active fighters, not kowtowers and do-nothings. > > And I think you’re wrong on socialism. Things change. Maybe we’ll find out. Active fighters don’t have to be socialists. I agree they need aggressive candidates to lead the fight. I don’t know if they did a similar poll in 2024. It would be interesting to see how much it changed in 4 years. Of course Democrats are much more likely to vote for a socialist than republicans but the numbers for independents aren’t good either. > **[Socialism and Atheism Still U.S. Political Liabilities](https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx)** > > While Americans' willingness to support a black or a woman as a candidate for president now approaches 100%, support for candidates who identify as socialist or atheist trails far behind. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/490 "2025-08-21T15:20:19Z")
I don’t think that tells us much. Maybe they wouldn’t vote for a hypothetical socialist, but what about a real, charismatic, intelligent socialist who can change some minds? We don’t know for sure until/unless one gets a nomination for president, which is likely to happen reasonably soon. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/491 "2025-08-21T15:20:28Z")
“A black”? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/492 "2025-08-21T15:23:37Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > “A black”? Not sure why the preview shows up that way. That’s not how the actual article is written. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I didn’t write it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/493 "2025-08-21T15:24:07Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Active fighters don’t have to be socialists. I agree they need aggressive candidates to lead the fight. Things is, that to be precise, he is a Democratic Socialist, like Bernie Sanders who describes himself as a democratic socialist and an admirer of aspects of Nordic social democracy, while also supporting workplace democracy in the forms of union democracy and worker cooperatives. Now, if one can show that Vermont is an economic and social hellhole, that would be news. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/494 "2025-08-21T15:24:29Z")
If you’re expressing an issue with the wording in the linked article it would be best to **If you are responding to something in a thread that is basically off-topic or likely to lead to a hijack, try this:** How to **Reply as a linked Topic** : Click Reply, in the upper left corner of the reply window is the reply type button, _looks like a curving arrow point to the right_. Choose **Reply as linked topic** and it starts a new thread. As an example, you can choose GD, IMHO or The Pit for it. That is actually the best method. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/495 "2025-08-21T15:29:02Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > Active fighters don’t have to be socialists. I agree they need aggressive candidates to lead the fight. > > Things is, that to be precise, he is a Democratic Socialist, like Bernie Sanders who describes himself as a democratic socialist and an admirer of aspects of Nordic social democracy, while also supporting workplace democracy in the forms of union democracy and worker cooperatives. > > Now, if one can show that Vermont is an economic and social hellhole, that would be news. I think it’s foolish to believe enough Americans care about the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/496 "2025-08-21T15:29:26Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Active fighters don’t have to be socialists. I agree they need aggressive candidates to lead the fight. Newsom is very actively fighting, and he’s a staunch Liberal. How vigorously you fight Trump is a very important variable, but it is by no means on the same axis as how far Left you are. See also: all the Green Party and DSA voters who stayed home rather than supporting Kamala. Literally anyone who voted Democrat is a more aggressive fighter for Democracy than they are. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/497 "2025-08-21T15:32:15Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I think it’s foolish to believe enough Americans care about the difference. Straw man, I never did say that enough Americans do. Just saying, as a way to do some micro teaching for other readers. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/498 "2025-08-21T15:35:26Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Active fighters don’t have to be socialists. I agree they need aggressive candidates to lead the fight. Agree with this. But current Dem leadership seems lacking. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I don’t think that tells us much. Maybe they wouldn’t vote for a hypothetical socialist, but what about a real, charismatic, intelligent socialist who can change some minds? We don’t know for sure until/unless one gets a nomination for president, which is likely to happen reasonably soon. Have any won election as state governor or other important office in a blue state? If a socialist can’t win in a deep blue state then I don’t believe one will have a chance nationally. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/499 "2025-08-21T15:37:49Z")
Bernie Sanders is the obvious answer, for statewide office. I expect we’ll see AOC run for statewide office or maybe even President in the next few years, so that will be another test. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/500 "2025-08-21T15:47:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Bernie Sanders is the obvious answer, for statewide office. Senator since 2007. Well, we’ll see how AOC does. I think the Dems need to do _something_ different, and to refocus on economic issues, but that thing probably isn’t socialism - at least not without some major changes. When has genuine socialism ever worked, rather than Scandinavian-style capitalism with a welfare state? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085.md?page=26)