# NYC Mayor election thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085 "2025-06-24T17:40:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/761 "2025-11-22T19:56:56Z")

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> [@Zoobi](#):
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> It might be easier if you just name the posters in question who you are calling out for hypocrisy

I’m not calling any posters out for hypocrisy. If I did, I would be saying, “Such and such poster is a hypocrite”, or maybe I’d be quote of an earlier post of theirs and asking, “this you?”.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/762 "2025-11-22T20:00:17Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> That people were _very_ upset with Kamala over the _extremely minor_ role that Cheney played in her campaign?

I am sure it occurred, but I have no memory of that post- (Think Gandalf down in the Mines of Moria).

> [@Alessan](#):
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> Mamdani has a city to run. As far as he’s concerned, there’s no downside to him getting along with Trump.

Oh come on, there are posters here that claimed having a photo Op with trump and shaking his hand made that person a traitor.

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Just so **puzzlegal** knows she has company, I’m either completely unaware of that story or it has dropped out of my memory.

Yep.

> [@Babale](#):
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> God, I envy you! I wish I was so blissfully unaware of the stupidest of reasons to oppose Kamala.

I will see that and raise-

“She’s a woman!!!” “She is black!!!”

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Wait, there’s someone who still gives a damn what Cenk Uygur has to say about anything?

Who?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/763 "2025-11-22T20:04:01Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Oh come on, there are posters here that claimed having a photo Op with trump and shaking his hand made that person a traitor.

You are, I believe, badly mistaken.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/765 "2025-11-22T20:20:38Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You are, I believe, badly mistaken.

A female politician, possibly a frontrunner for Prez in 2028, in that thread. I dont remember her name or the poster, but she posed for a photo op with trump, and shook his hand- instant disqualification that poster said.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/766 "2025-11-22T20:39:59Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I dont remember her name or the poster, but she posed for a photo op with trump, and shook his hand- instant disqualification that poster said.

I don’t believe you’re correct, even in this much milder claim.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/767 "2025-11-22T20:41:15Z")

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I suspect the perceived “magnanimous” and “thick-skinned” was merely a function of the pills he was on at the time, some sort of mood relaxant that worked maybe a little too well.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/768 "2025-11-22T21:07:31Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I don’t believe you’re correct, even in this much milder claim.

> [@Frontrunners for Democratic presidential nomination in 2028](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/440):
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> Mayor Pete should not run. He’s not ready. Go for Senator or Governor. Don’t waste people’s time.

Posts 440 and on.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/769 "2025-11-22T21:50:28Z")

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Thanks for the link! I was right: the word “disqualifying” never appears in that thread, and nobody called Whitmer a traitor. You were wrong, and I appreciate the evidence. Done and dusted, and back to the main topic!

(edit: on the remote chance that you weren’t admitting error by posting that link, and want to discuss it further, I’ll join you in a different thread to discuss it; but it’s so unambiguous that I don’t see the need.)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/770 "2025-11-22T23:26:55Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Thanks for the link! I was right: the word “disqualifying” never appears in that thread, and nobody called Whitmer a traitor. You were wrong, and I appreciate the evidence. Done and dusted, and back to the main topic!

“I can’t vote for someone who shows up at the Trump White House expecting him to act in good faith….Her duty to her constituents is to resist fascism.…Whitmer’s a tool.” if that is not “disqualifying” I dont know what is.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/771 "2025-11-22T23:44:55Z")

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Well, Zohran’s lost my vote for president. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/772 "2025-11-23T01:24:00Z")

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Start a new thread, or join the appropriate one in a different forum, and I will gladly engage with this further.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/773 "2025-11-23T02:15:54Z")

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**Moderating**  
I’m making that official, drop it here.

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**Author:** ![Topologist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/topologist/32/3208_2.png) [@Topologist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Topologist)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/774 "2025-11-24T03:29:29Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Here’s an analysis of the Mamdani visit to the White House I saw on Facebook by a gentleman named Bruce Fanger. First, it recommends everyone watch the full 30 minutes and not just the viral clips of the two of them getting along, which is always good advice when trying to analyze a media event. I personally have not watched the full 30 minutes because I cannot stand to listen to Trump for even 30 seconds, so I don’t know how accurate this is, but I post it anyway for those who can stomach watching it:

So I went to watch the video, and what’s available on the web didn’t seem to match this description at all. I watched only the first five minutes, but it was clear it wasn’t what Fanger was describing. Does anyone have a link to a video that does match this description, or was Fanger hallucinating the whole thing? Disappointing if so.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/775 "2025-11-24T06:35:45Z")

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> [@Topologist](#):
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> Does anyone have a link to a video that does match this description, or was Fanger hallucinating the whole thing? Disappointing if so.

He was hallucinating. What he describes doesn’t make any sense, anyways; he describes their meeting as some kind of attempted dick measuring contest by Trump that Mamdani isn’t impressed by which makes Trump back down and respect Mamdani. And while it’s entirely possible that this is how their initial meeting went, we _wouldn’t know_, because Trump and Mamdani met one on one first, which is when they’d have hashed out how they feel about one another, and only after that did they let reporters in.

Actually, I did watch the full coverage of the meeting after the fact, and some of the context is interesting. The anchors were saying that usually when someone meets the president, the press sees them on the way in and maybe they say a couple words, they go in, meet one on one, and at a prearranged time the press enters.

This time Mamdani entered through a different entrance without greeting the press, and there was no announcement about the press getting in. They explained that the press was aware Mamdani was there (obviously, as there were coverage) but they had no idea if Mamdani would make a public appearance of any kind, with or without Trump.

Only as the one on one meeting was wrapping up was it announced that Mamdani and Trump would be taking questions shortly.

As to the interview itself, the two of them were cordial the whole way through. Trump was almost protective of Mamdani - that fascist question wasn’t the only time he intervened to help him. Like, at one point a reporter from what I assume was a particularly crappy right wing rag (I looked it up, it was Fox News, no surprise there) asked him “Why did you fly here? Aren’t trains greener?”. Mamdani gave a good redirect - “I will use every mode of transportation and ensure they are all affordable for all New Yorkers” - and then Trump follows that up with, “and also, it’s MUCH faster”.

So I think it’s clear that whatever Mamdani did to work out a relationship with Trump, he did it at the first, private meeting.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/776 "2025-11-24T07:39:42Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Like, at one point a reporter from what I assume was a particularly crappy right wing rag (I looked it up, it was Fox News, no surprise there) asked him “Why did you fly here? Aren’t trains greener?”. Mamdani gave a good redirect - “I will use every mode of transportation and ensure they are all affordable for all New Yorkers” - and then Trump follows that up with, “and also, it’s MUCH faster”.

As an aside, it’s only a three-hour ride from NYC to DC on the Acela, vs. a 90-minute flight from LaGuardia to Reagan International, but when you factor in getting through TSA and the time it takes to board the plane it might be a wash. Biden used to ride Amtrak almost daily from Wilmington to DC and back when he was a senator, so it wouldn’t be unheard of.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/777 "2025-11-24T17:52:15Z")

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When i lived in Manhattan, i routinely took the Acela to DC because it was faster (door to door) than flying. But it’s certainly plausible that from Queens, and getting a car to the white house, flying is faster.

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**Author:** ![Topologist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/topologist/32/3208_2.png) [@Topologist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Topologist)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/778 "2025-11-25T03:24:36Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> He was hallucinating.

Thanks for the confirmation and thanks for the further context.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/779 "2025-11-25T11:16:23Z")

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Isn’t it something, that just not having an embarassing public meltdown happen is viewed by some observers as some sort of triumph. A sign that unhingedness has been normalized?

But also I get from reactions like that how so many are vulnerable to the “OMG he’s such a genius strategist” syndrome whenever things go reasonably well. So many have grown to expect failure.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/780 "2025-11-26T03:57:23Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> I suspect the perceived “magnanimous” and “thick-skinned” was merely a function of the pills he was on at the time, some sort of mood relaxant that worked maybe a little too well.

[Here](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/25/us/mamdani-trump-meeting-elder-uncle-cec)’s an interesting take from CNN on how Mamdani “won over” Trump – using the generational “desi\*” trick of treating him like a tedious uncle, i.e. acting respectful and interested on the surface, then going off and doing exactly what he wants to do.

\*This is the term used in the article, I hope it is not offensive.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/781 "2025-11-26T04:11:59Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> \*This is the term used in the article, I hope it is not offensive.

As a desi uncle myself, I can say I’ve never found it offensive.

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