# NYC Mayor election thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085 "2025-06-24T17:40:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/81 "2025-06-25T20:26:44Z")

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God, I’m glad that Cuomo didn’t win! But the Democratic establishment needs to really well and truly pull their heads out of their asses.  
The future of Democrats ain’t looking promising, and they were the only ones who had a chance to beat Republicans.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/82 "2025-06-25T20:49:32Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> What is an abundance progressive? I recently saw the term abundance used, but it seemed to be in contrast to progressive politics.

“Abundance” refers to the ideas set out in the recent Ezra Klien/Derek Thompson book [Abundance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_(Klein_and_Thompson_book)). Their argument is simple: To achieve progressive goals, Progressives need to stop their focus on process, checkboxed fairness, and the millions of other minutiae which convert a 2-year building process into a 10-year struggle of compliance, impact reports, zoning meetings, and more.

A lot of progressives do not like hearing the message that they are just as responsible as conservatives in stopping government-assisted progress, but as far as I’m concerned, the message is important… and true.

It’s a good book, rather short @ 200-pages or so, and worth the time it takes to read it.

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**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/83 "2025-06-26T00:07:31Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> Look at Canada with MAID.

Wtf?

As a Canadian I’m completely lost on what you, being very obviously not a Canadian, think is going on here with MAID.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/84 "2025-06-26T00:16:52Z")

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The official Canadian position is : A man needs a maid.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/85 "2025-06-26T00:21:59Z")

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…thats the subject for another thread. Feel free to start one.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/86 "2025-06-26T00:27:50Z")

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Something that so many posters in here are failing to recognize:

If Democrats keep nominating pro-Hamas shitheads like Mamdani and AOC, they will lose millions of voters just like me. I, for one, will pick the most Trumpian right wing lunatic over these terrorism supporters every time.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/87 "2025-06-26T00:30:21Z")

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If they nominate corrupt sexual abusers like Cuomo, they’ll lose a lot more votes, based on this election.

I would never support a pro-Hamas or pro terrorist politician, but thankfully AOC and Mamdani don’t remotely qualify. I’m sure Trump will try to spread lies like these, but hopefully those lies will fall flat.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/88 "2025-06-26T00:37:26Z")

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> If Democrats keep nominating pro-Hamas shitheads like Mamdani and AOC, they will lose millions of voters just like me.

I don’t think there are millions of voters who would vote for Democrats except that they massively misunderstand criticism of Netanyahu’s war.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/89 "2025-06-26T00:46:20Z")

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The really crazy thing about Replacement Theory is that, duh, of course they’re being replaced. We all are. That’s how this whole “being mortal” thing works: We all die, and others replace us.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/90 "2025-06-26T00:46:38Z")

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> If Democrats keep nominating pro-Hamas shitheads like Mamdani and AOC, they will lose millions of voters just like me. I, for one, will pick the most Trumpian right wing lunatic over these terrorism supporters every time.

Mamdani is absolutely terrible with his “Globalize the Intifada” support - absolutely disqualifying, like if he supported “All Lives Matter” during BLM. AOC is not nearly as bad (and in fact far lefty types castigated her as a “Zionist” lately… You see a lot of _“Zohran better not tolurn out like AOC”_ posts on BlueSky nowadays).

For example, AOC took a bunch of fire for this:

AOC: ‘Antisemitism is an assault on our values’ – The Forward [AOC: ‘Antisemitism is an assault on our values’ – The Forward](https://share.google/ybYh6Jl6wOwIjjC6J)

And even an actual socialist like Mamdani is (slightly) better than MAGA.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/91 "2025-06-26T00:55:54Z")

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This is Hamas’s war, not Netanyahu’s

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/92 "2025-06-26T00:57:23Z")

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Just to be clear: The slogan “Globalize the Intifada” means that people around the world should think that Palestine should be free of Israel, correct? Because that’s pretty weak, to make that out as “pro-Hamas”.

> [@Ponch8](#):
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> This is Hamas’s war, not Netanyahu’s

They’re on the same side of it. Both of them are on the side that wants war. The Palestinians and Israelis are the ones suffering, not Hamas nor Netanyahu.

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/93 "2025-06-26T00:57:50Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> have the know-how to make all this run.

I suspect most mayors are many levels removed from knowing how garbage collection actually works and that the key issue is whether they can pick good advisers and bureaucrats.

When the socialist Salvadore Allende was elected president of Chile, he stated clearly that even as president there was not a lot a socialist could do. The point is to do what can be done and provide hope and examples, try experiments, encourage people and arts, fight the right, and make sure the trash gets picked up. These are all worthwhile.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/94 "2025-06-26T00:59:10Z")

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> This is Hamas’s war, not Netanyahu’s

That vastly oversimplifies things, but talking about why is a move away from this thread. I don’t think that voters who oversimplify in this particular fashion but would otherwise vote for Democrats are all that common.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/95 "2025-06-26T01:02:00Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Just to be clear: The slogan “Globalize the Intifada” means that people around the world should think that Palestine should be free of Israel, correct?

Just to be clear, the Intifadas were waves of violent terrorist attacks, and calls to globalize them are calls for terror against Jewish people across the world. The fact that some braindead people are duped into chanting the same slogan doesn’t make it any less violent or hateful - just as a backwater idiot who _genuinely_ believes he is flying the Confederate flag to celebrate his southern heritage should be condemned.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/96 "2025-06-26T01:02:35Z")

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But wait! It gets better! Maybe they mean to just replace Mamdani. /s

> **[MAGA Has a Depraved New Plan for Democratic Star Zohran Mamdani](https://newrepublic.com/post/197279/maga-depraved-new-plan-democratic-star-zohran-mamdani)**
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> Influential right-wing groups are calling on President Trump to deport the young progressive who just won New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary.

> MAGA Republican groups are calling for the deportation of New York City Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani.
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> On Wednesday, the day after the 33-year-old democratic socialist handily secured his party’s nomination, the New York Young Republican Club, or NYYRC, took to X, begging Trump immigration advisers Stephen Miller and Tom Homan to revoke Mamdani’s U.S. citizenship and deport him.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/97 "2025-06-26T01:06:06Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> But wait! It gets better! Maybe they mean to just replace Mamdani. /s

Yikes. That’s disgusting, racist, and idiotic.

Mamdani’s flaws have nothing to do with his heritage.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/98 "2025-06-26T01:16:18Z")

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**Moderating:**

> [@Ponch8](#):
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> This is Hamas’s war, not Netanyahu’s

This is off-topic, we have plenty of threads on this subject if you want to discuss the origins of the current stage of the conflict. Discussion of the candidate’s stance on the issue is pertinent, but let’s keep the focus on this _specific_ election. If you want to have a general discussion on Democratic candidate’s opinions on the current conflict, you’re free to start your own thread.

_This is just a guidance, not a warning. Nothing on your permanent record._

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/99 "2025-06-26T02:03:09Z")

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I like that Mamdani won. The party has gone way too far right. I don’t think becoming the gop of 80’s and 90"s is cutting it. We need to move forward as a party and a country.

miller is a creepy weirdo. He looks like a bond villan’s henchmen. Gives me the creeps.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/100 "2025-06-26T02:09:21Z")

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The racist Fascists are calling Mamdani a Muslim Communist. He’s with the Democratic Socialists of America, which I am glad to be a member of too.

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