# NYC Mayor election thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085 "2025-06-24T17:40:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/161 "2025-06-28T18:03:32Z")
I’m curious what Jimmy Carter said on the topic. Because he was friendly with a pretty wide mix of people. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/162 "2025-06-28T18:05:52Z")
Why haven’t the big-name Democrats signaled that they’ll support him? Because you know the billionaires will back Adams. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/163 "2025-06-28T18:25:11Z")
Well, i googled (duck ducked?) Carter and the Confederate flag, and this is the best i could find. From an AP news article: # Former US President Jimmy Carter on Iran, Confederate flag By [KATHLEEN FOODY](https://apnews.com/author/kathleen-foody) > Updated 2:09 PM EDT, July 15, 2015 > … > Here’s a look at the other topics Carter discussed in his interview with the AP: > > * * * > > CONFEDERATE SYMBOLS > > Carter commended South Carolina officials’ recent vote to remove a Confederate battle flag from the Statehouse grounds and said other states should do the same on government property. The flag was rarely used before it came to represent white supremacy during the civil rights movement, he said. > > “The use of a symbol that is prominently interpreted by African Americans and many white people as a symbol of white supremacy, it’s time to do away with it,” he said. > > But he said there should be a distinction between the battle flag and tributes to Confederate figures, such as the large carving at Stone Mountain Park or statues in his home county in Georgia. > > Carter’s Southern roots were central to his first presidential campaign. His great-grandfather fought in the Confederate army at Gettysburg, and Carter described his father as “an enlightened segregationist” who believed throughout his life that races should be separate but treated black employees and customers of the family’s farm in south Georgia well. Notice that he was careful not to say that every white person used the Confederate flag as a symbol of white supremacy. Or that it made him uncomfortable. Or that using it is evil. He was careful and nuanced and non-confrontational. But it’s not a fair comparison, because racism towards Blacks is relevant to essentially every American elected position, whereas the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is relevant only at the federal level. And for that matter, when I hear someone in the US say “globalize the intifada”, i might tell them why i don’t think they should say that, if it’s someone who cares about my opinion. But i don’t feel especially uncomfortable. Because the vast majority of the contexts where I’d hear that, the speaker doesn’t mean, “i want to throw a Molotov cocktail through your window, you dirty Jew”, they mean, “i want my university to stop supporting Israel, because of how Israel is treating the Palestinians”. And that latter isn’t an especially threatening statement. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/164 "2025-06-28T18:28:52Z")
Also, they’re not exactly the same – white southern racists have never been an oppressed or marginalized group; they’ve never been subject to brutal occupation (except for the entirely justified era of Reconstruction); they’ve never had a truly good reason to need symbols and slogans of resistance against broader society. Palestinians are obviously quite different. That doesn’t mean people shouldn’t take care about what they say, but I do have a lot more sympathy for an oppressed, marginalized, and stateless people needing symbols and slogans of solidarity and resistance than for white southern racists (and non-racist but very ignorant white southerners) who display Confederate imagery. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/165 "2025-06-28T18:35:27Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Why haven’t the big-name Democrats signaled that they’ll support him? They’re probably still pulling for Cuomo. Except for the Jan. 6 committee, AOC and Jasmine Crockett, big name Democrats have been a legendary fizzle. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/166 "2025-06-28T19:37:33Z")
And add to that that any statement in support of Palestinian people is guaranteed to be interpreted by some folks as antisemitic. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/167 "2025-06-28T20:07:36Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Why haven’t the big-name Democrats signaled that they’ll support him? Bernie Sanders, Eliz. Warren, AOC, and many others > **[Zohran for NYC](https://www.zohranfornyc.com/endorsements)** > > Zohran Mamdani is running for Mayor to lower the cost of living for working class New Yorkers. I am looking at a list of who endorsed Adams, and there were no “big name” democrats, simply because they generally do not endorse for local races. These were his “big names” =US Representatives Adriano Espaillat, Hakeem Jeffries, Sean Patrick Maloney, Gregory Meeks, Thomas Suozzi, and Ritchie Torres.. In other words, Zohran has more big names backing him that is normal. And the UNions are backing Zohran- > **[Major Unions Are Dropping Cuomo to Back Mamdani in N.Y.C. Mayor’s Race](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/27/nyregion/unions-mamdani-cuomo-endorsement.html)** > > The powerful hotel workers union and Local 32BJ are switching their endorsements to Zohran Mamdani, a sign that Democratic power brokers are coalescing behind him. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/168 "2025-06-28T21:10:36Z")
Eric Swalwell, who I mostly like, straight up lies about Mamdani: > **[Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/kenklippenstein.bsky.social/post/3lsowgsv3gs2i)** > > Democratic congressman Eric Swalwell says of Zohran Mamdani: "I don't associate myself with what he has said about the Jewish people." Mamdani hasn’t said a single negative thing about the Jewish people. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/169 "2025-06-28T21:42:45Z")
Swalwell: “I don’t associate myself with what he has said about the Jewish people” Mamdani: talks about his policies and plans for combating anti-Semitism [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gui29oeXIAAwRDp?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gui29oeXIAAwRDp?format=jpg&name=900x900) Swalwell: evidently supports anti-Semitism? ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/170 "2025-06-29T18:35:44Z")
[Here](https://podscripts.co/podcasts/the-bulwark-podcast/zohran-mamdani-fypod-crossover) is a link to the podcast where Mamdani was asked about the phrase “globalize the intifada”. Here’s the relevant section, although I haven’t parsed who said what. Hopefully you can check the actual audio if you want to know, > we mentioned the Islamophobia. Obviously, we also have to be worried about the uptick in anti-Semitism. And there’s one thing in particular that frustrates me when talking with folks on the left. And that is like downplaying this conversation about how there obviously is anti-Semitism on the right, but there’s anti-Semitism coming from the left and coming from these protests. And one example I think of is this phrase, globalize the intifada, which is a very popular phrase at protests on the left. And maybe some people say that phrase with good intent, > Starting point is 00:52:57 > but there are certainly some people who are saying that phrase with violent intent. So I wonder what you think about that, about the phrase globalize intifada and what we’ve seen as some anti-semitism coming from the left-wing protesters. The first thing as you were saying is anti-semitism is a real issue in our city and it’s one that can be captured in statistics, the ones that you’re citing. It’s also one that you will feel in conversations you have with Jewish New Yorkers across the city. > Starting point is 00:53:24 > And I remember one conversation I had with a friend of mine after the horrific war crime of October 7th. He was telling me that he went for Shabbat services at his temple and he was facing forward when he heard the door open. And he turned back with a chill going up his spine because he didn’t know who was coming in. And that’s more than a year ago. And then just a few weeks ago, I had a conversation with a Jewish man in Williamsburg his spine because he didn’t know who was coming in. And that’s more than a year ago. And then just a few weeks ago, I had a conversation with a Jewish man in Williamsburg who told me that the same door he would keep unlocked for decades is one that he now locks out of a fear of what could happen in his own neighborhood. > Starting point is 00:54:00 > And I think that this is something that has to be the focus of the next mayoral administration, is not just talking about it, but tackling it. And these are the conversations that have informed our commitment around increasing funding for anti-hate crime programming by 800% in our Department of Community Safety. to the question of language that’s being used. I am someone who I would say am less comfortable with the idea of banning the use of certain words and that I think it is more evocative of a Trump style approach to how to lead a country. > Starting point is 00:54:45 > And- Does that just make you uncomfortable? Like the phrase globalizing to fire to how to lead a country. And- Sure, but like, does that just make you uncomfortable? Like the phrase globalizing to find out from the river to the sea, does that make you uncomfortable? Or do you think- Okay, those are different. Those are super different. > Starting point is 00:54:54 > They’re not really. Those are like different genres. I’m sorry, I’m asking so wrong. Then they’re not really different to me. And so some people are not different. I know people for whom those things mean very different things. And to me, ultimately, what I hear in so many is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights > Starting point is 00:55:13 > in standing up for Palestinian human rights. And I think what’s difficult also is that the very word has been used by the Holocaust Museum when translating the Warsaw ghetto uprising into Arabic because it’s a word that means struggle. And as a Muslim man who grew up post-911, I’m all too familiar in the way in which Arabic words can be twisted, can be distorted, can be used to justify any kind of meaning. And I think that’s where it leaves me with a sense that what we need to do is focus on keeping Jewish New Yorkers safe. And the question of the permissibility of language is something that I haven’t ventured into. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/171 "2025-06-29T19:03:01Z")
That’s actually a really good answer. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/172 "2025-06-29T19:08:26Z")
Establishment Dems: “Vote blue no matter who! Unless someone we don’t like wins a primary”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/173 "2025-06-29T20:05:13Z")
> **[News Eye (@newseye.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:uz5apa2z3jrxhjjzqw5qik65/post/3lsqws46w7k26?ref_src=embed)** > > Wow. The single biggest voting bloc in the NYC mayoral primary was 18-24 year olds. > > I’m not sure that has ever happened anywhere. > > (📸 Vote Hub US via NYT) "The single biggest voting bloc in the NYC mayoral primary was 18-24 year olds. I’m not sure that has ever happened anywhere." If true, holy shit. This really could be a big deal if it’s not just a blip. And if party bigwigs don’t recognize this and adapt, they could get totally overrun. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/174 "2025-06-29T20:08:36Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If true, holy shit. This really could be a big deal if it’s not just a blip. And if party bigwigs don’t recognize this and adapt, they could get totally overrun. Wow! I agree completely. I’ll want to see a bit more data from other sources but, if true, dem leadership needs to pay attention to it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/175 "2025-06-29T20:34:53Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Establishment Dems: “Vote blue no matter who! Unless someone we don’t like wins a primary”. This is not true, look at who endorsed him- > **[Zohran for NYC](https://www.zohranfornyc.com/endorsements)** > > Zohran Mamdani is running for Mayor to lower the cost of living for working class New Yorkers. Way, way more than the last Dem Mayor. Important Democrats are coming from all over to endorse Zohran. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/176 "2025-06-29T20:38:23Z")
Just to clarify one thing… You’re talking about _since_ the election? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/177 "2025-06-29T20:40:02Z")
Who are you replying to and what part of their post? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/178 "2025-06-29T20:42:52Z")
That was for you; the end part. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/179 "2025-06-29T20:55:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > "The single biggest voting bloc in the NYC mayoral primary was 18-24 year olds. > > I’m not sure that has ever happened anywhere." > > If true, holy shit. This really could be a big deal if it’s not just a blip. And if party bigwigs don’t recognize this and adapt, they could get totally overrun. One slight caution - the histogram’s buckets are not quite the same size - all buckets for 25 and over are five years in size, while the 18-24 year old bucket is (naturally) seven years in size. So, all other things being equal, you would expect the larger bucket to have larger participation. But! The post also has the histogram from the same primary four years ago, and it looks like 18-24 participation went up by about a factor of 2.5 during that time. So that is definitely significant. SunSon has occasionally told me that young people of his age should be the targets of political appeals so that they would show up to vote more frequently. I put it to him that if they showed up and voted, that would be the best way to get the attention of politicians. It’s possible that the chicken-and-egg problem is quickly being overcome. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085/180 "2025-06-29T20:57:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > That was for you; the end part. Maybe use the quote feature next time, it makes things easier? I dont know _when_ the people that list endorsed him. I simply provided the list, which disproves several posts here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-election-thread/1020085.md?page=10)