# NYC mayor is basically a Democratic version of Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257 "2020-04-07T06:53:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/1 "2020-04-07T06:53:23Z")
> **[The Missteps Of Mayor Bill De Blasio's Coronavirus Response](https://gothamist.com/news/missteps-mayor-bill-de-blasios-coronavirus-response)** > > At the center of the epicenter is Mayor de Blasio, who has repeatedly delivered half-measures and confusing information to New Yorkers and has been late to take action in areas that could have helped slow the spread of the virus. Just a horrible response. Arrogant woke racist ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/2 "2020-04-07T12:10:04Z")
sorry, political jab -forgot the rules ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/3 "2020-04-07T12:16:29Z")
From what I’ve read, de Blasio’s handling has been pretty bad, but this looks like just bad management – nothing to do with being “woke” or whatever. Gavin Newsome is just as liberal, but has been a much better manager. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/4 "2020-04-07T12:45:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > From what I’ve read, de Blasio’s handling has been pretty bad, but this looks like just bad management – nothing to do with being “woke” or whatever. Gavin Newsome is just as liberal, but has been a much better manager. Gavin Newsome has done an objectively better job than Cuomo. I don’t see why Cuomo is being held up as some shining beacon of competence. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/5 "2020-04-07T12:47:34Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Just a horrible response. > Arrogant woke racist The first statement I fully agree with. The Mayor has been terrible. The second part, doesn’t seem to belong here. Maybe you could expand and explain? Thankfully NY has a Governor who is doing an excellent job in a horrible difficult time. Because NYC is not being led well by their idiot Mayor and of course by the mostly counterproductive President. Cuomo and the other area Governors have all stepped up very well. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/6 "2020-04-07T12:52:29Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > [The Missteps Of Mayor Bill De Blasio's Coronavirus Response - Gothamist](https://gothamist.com/news/missteps-mayor-bill-de-blasios-coronavirus-response) > > Just a horrible response. > Arrogant woke racist I read your whole link and have no idea what you mean by “arrogant woke racist”. His response was pretty bad, though - no where near as bad as trump. I mean – you’re criticizing the mayor for being too slow to institute a lockdown? In case you havent noticed we still don’t have a national lockdown. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/7 "2020-04-07T13:10:39Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > {…} The second part, doesn’t seem to belong here. Maybe you could expand and explain? {…} > [@Babale](#): > > I read your whole link and have no idea what you mean by “arrogant woke racist”. {…} What? The middle of a pandemic _isn’t_ the perfect time to air old grievances? CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/8 "2020-04-07T13:21:45Z")
**Moderator Action** Moving to Politics and Elections (from Quarantine Zone). ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/9 "2020-04-07T13:51:15Z")
> **[The Mayor Who Can’t Rise to the Occasion](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/how-bill-de-blasio-failed-new-york-city/609379/)** > > New York’s Bill de Blasio seems irritated by the need to fight the coronavirus. They’re talking it to easy on him ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/10 "2020-04-07T13:53:23Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > [How Bill de Blasio Failed New York City - The Atlantic](https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/609379/) > > They’re talking it to easy on him Please, summarize, just posting links is not wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/11 "2020-04-07T14:01:52Z")
AFAICT, de Blasio is an unpopular mayor, both in the city and outside it, and no one outside his own office is really defending him. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/12 "2020-04-07T15:59:24Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > [How Bill de Blasio Failed New York City - The Atlantic](https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/609379/) > > They’re talking it to easy on him You’re citing an article titled “The Mayor Who Can’t Rise to the Occasion” as evidence the media is going too easy on him? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/13 "2020-04-07T16:00:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > From what I’ve read, de Blasio’s handling has been pretty bad, but this looks like just bad management – nothing to do with being “woke” or whatever. Gavin Newsome is just as liberal, but has been a much better manager. Gavin Newsome is as liberal but he is not as much of a “woke” SJW as DeBlasio He is not calling for the integration of public schools in California the way DeBlasio is. He is not punishing model minorities for fucking up his arguments about racism and white supremacy. He is administration is not implying that model minorities are selfish for being successful. Gavin Newsome does not play the race card anywhere near as much as DeBlasio does. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/14 "2020-04-07T16:02:41Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Gavin Newsome has done an objectively better job than Cuomo. I don’t see why Cuomo is being held up as some shining beacon of competence. Because Newsome doesn’t have to deal with an incompetent mayor in Los Angeles or San Francisco. Cuomo has had to overrule DeBlasio several times. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/15 "2020-04-07T16:04:35Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I read your whole link and have no idea what you mean by “arrogant woke racist”. His response was pretty bad, though - no where near as bad as trump. I mean – you’re criticizing the mayor for being too slow to institute a lockdown? In case you havent noticed we still don’t have a national lockdown. Yep, I think Trump is a clusterfuck too. That doesn’t mean he has a monopoly on stupid. If you want to have a Trump hating contest, I’m game. I bet it ends in a tie. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/16 "2020-04-07T16:09:34Z")
I’m a hardcore Dem but Deblasio just strikes me as a grade-A jackass. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/17 "2020-04-07T16:12:33Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > He is not calling for the integration of public schools in California the way DeBlasio is. > He is not punishing model minorities for fucking up his arguments about racism and white supremacy. > He is administration is not implying that model minorities are selfish for being successful. None of this has anything to do with his response to the virus. It’s a good thing this thread was moved to Elections, but maybe the Pit would be better. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/18 "2020-04-07T16:12:51Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Gavin Newsome has done an objectively better job than Cuomo. I don’t see why Cuomo is being held up as some shining beacon of competence. Lord knows I have plenty of problems with Cuomo. But I’ll give him credit that he seems aware of the size of the problem and is doing what he can to address it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/19 "2020-04-07T16:14:25Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Gavin Newsome is as liberal but he is not as much of a “woke” SJW as DeBlasio > > He is not calling for the integration of public schools in California the way DeBlasio is. > He is not punishing model minorities for fucking up his arguments about racism and white supremacy. > He is administration is not implying that model minorities are selfish for being successful. > > Gavin Newsome does not play the race card anywhere near as much as DeBlasio does. Sounds like you’re angry with DeBlasio because he isn’t in agreement with your particular brand of racism. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/20 "2020-04-07T16:16:49Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > The first statement I fully agree with. The Mayor has been terrible. > The second part, doesn’t seem to belong here. Maybe you could expand and explain? > > Thankfully NY has a Governor who is doing an excellent job in a horrible difficult time. Because NYC is not being led well by their idiot Mayor and of course by the mostly counterproductive President. Cuomo and the other area Governors have all stepped up very well. > [@Babale](#): > > I read your whole link and have no idea what you mean by “arrogant woke racist”. His response was pretty bad, though - no where near as bad as trump. I mean – you’re criticizing the mayor for being too slow to institute a lockdown? In case you havent noticed we still don’t have a national lockdown. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > What? The middle of a pandemic _isn’t_ the perfect time to air old grievances? > > CMC fnord! Yes the second part of that was an unnecessary jab at a mayor whose politics I think represent the worst parts of the Democratic party. And I think his singular focus on seeing everything through the lens of race and social justice makes him and people like him unsuitable to lead. He failed to close schools until fairly late because he was concerned about the impact it wold have on kids that needed school lunch and parents that needed child care. He thought these issues impacted disproportionately impacted minority communities. He continued to minimize the threat of coronavirus and now NYC is the epicenter of coronavirus in America. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257.md?page=2)