# NYC mayor is basically a Democratic version of Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257 "2020-04-07T06:53:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 93
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257/93 "2020-04-14T20:25:39Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > Nobody is obligated to or interested in playing the JAQ game. You are free to collect your own evidence and make your own arguments. At this point you have stated or implied that my behavior and others’ is hypocritical, or, more generously, inconsistent, multiple times. Without the merest drop of evidence. I am more than implying you are hypocritical. I am saying that the standards you apply to find discrimination against asians is significantly higher than the standard you apply to find discrimination against other groups. What do you call a person who thinks that a low bar of evidence is sufficient to find racism against one group but requires a higher bar of evidence to establish racism against another group. > [@](#): > > If you’re sitting on “tons of evidence” about what I do or do not require elsewhere, let’s see it. But we all know you don’t have any. Because you’ve had multiple opportunities to back up your ad hominem and have thus far utterly and comically failed to do so. I have pointed to several studies that show disparities between scores and acceptance rates. I have cited a former ivy league associate dean of admissions who flat out stated at there is a bias against asians in the admissions process. I have pointed to a history of discrimination by ivy leagues against model minorities. Short of a secret email between all these schools talking about how to keep out the chinks, what more evidence do you think it would take to convince you that there is discrimination against asians in college admissions? > [@](#): > > And even if you were able to pull it off, it doesn’t change what Espenshade says about his own work. > > [LOL](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question) You can’t take one sentence out of context and pretend it summarizes the whole of his views. It’s intellectually dishonest to pretend to only see the words that look like they support your position. The article i think you are quoting from is [Groups File Federal Complaint Alleging Discrimination in Harvard Admissions Process | News | The Harvard Crimson](https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/5/16/complaint-federal-harvard-admissions/) In an interview Friday, Espenshade said his research found that, controlling other factors, Asian-American applicants seemed to face a disadvantage in college admissions. Still, Espenshade said researchers lack access to other application materials, including essays and letters of recommendation, making it difficult to draw further conclusions. “I stop short of saying that Asian-American students are being discriminated against in the college application process because we don’t have sufficient empirical evidence to support that claim,” Espenshade said The way i read that is that he doesn’t have sufficient empirical evidence and its because he is being denied the data he needs to rule out other possibilities. It is clear from all the data that he does have access to that there is a racial disparity with no apparent explanation. It is heavily suggested that bias and discrimination is the culprit --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-mayor-is-basically-a-democratic-version-of-trump/851257)._