# NYC SDMB Redux? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 5, 1999, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835 "1999-11-05T20:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/41 "1999-11-12T14:32:00Z")
OK, how’s Thurs., Dec. 9 sound? We can celebrate my sister’s birthday. CM, what was that kosher joint you mentioned? Mel, I’ve got a hot date with the quarterback of the football team at 3:00–I’ll meet you in the girl’s bathroom after algebra, and we can dish! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/42 "1999-11-12T14:52:00Z")
No offense to your sister, Flora, but Thursday is the ONE night of that week I CAN’T make it. How 'bout Wednesday? Mel, I feel that generally the arranger for a large modern jazz ensemble will use the tuba as a link between the trombone section and the saxophone section. Most often it will act as the lowest voice in the trombone choir, but it occasionally doubles the baritone saxophone line. In this second case, arrangers are most probably influenced by the Gerry Mulligan/Gil Evans arrangements for the infamous 1948 “Capitol” (after the record label that released the record) or “Royal Roost” (after the one venue where they played, as an opener for the Count Basie Orchestra) band, the nonet led by Miles Davis that’s featured on the “Birth of the Cool” recordings. As an example, Mulligan and Bill Barber played in tandem in the opening of “Godchild,” a rising figure that was joined midway by the trombone and F horn, and finally by the trumpet and alto, to lead to a rousing full-group fanfare. And Alpha’s just jealous 'cause chicks don’t dig scientists. * * * Uke ---
**Author:** ![SaxFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SaxFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaxFace)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/43 "1999-11-12T15:30:00Z")
Flora, I’m babysitting Uke’s kids this weekend! Wanna come over to raid the refrigerator and make long distance phone calls? Uke, you are awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/44 "1999-11-12T15:32:00Z")
Once again, I have proved that you don’t need a slide rule to be a nerd. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/45 "1999-11-12T15:38:00Z")
You guys friggin’ crack me up. * * * **Dopeler effect:** The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly. ---
**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/46 "1999-11-12T16:24:00Z")
Apparently, Uke, you have no idea how much an aphrodisiac a lab coat is. “Trust me, I’m a doctor…” Hell, the lab **itself** is a great place to get jiggy. Too bad getting some action in a P2 lab facility isn’t on the purity test… * * * Back off, man. I’m a scientist. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/47 "1999-11-12T16:26:00Z")
“I feel that generally the arranger for a large modern jazz ensemble will use the tuba as a link between the trombone section and the saxophone section. Most often it will act as the lowest voice in the trombone choir, but it occasionally doubles the baritone saxophone line. In this second case, arrangers are most probably influenced by the Gerry Mulligan/Gil Evans arrangements for the infamous 1948 “Capitol” (after the record label that released the record) or “Royal Roost” (after the one venue where they played, as an opener for the Count Basie Orchestra) band, the nonet led by Miles Davis that’s featured on the “Birth of the Cool” recordings. As an example, Mulligan and Bill Barber played in tandem in the opening of “Godchild,” a rising figure that was joined midway by the trombone and F horn, and finally by the trumpet and alto, to lead to a rousing full-group fanfare . . .” Gee, Mel, don’t you just suh-WOON when guys say things like that to you? . . . And people wonder why I have cats. ---
**Author:** ![SaxFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SaxFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaxFace)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/48 "1999-11-12T16:56:00Z")
Flora, think about a man wearing Alphagene’s lab coat, metroshane’s fedora but talking about jazz like Uke. Mmmmm. Now I have no reason to leave the house. So you like to live dangerously, huh, St. Alphie? * * * Formerly “Melanie the Computer Idiot” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/49 "1999-11-12T17:16:00Z")
Oh, sure, Mel. The last time Flora and I got together I entertained her for forty minutes with an extrapolation of the differing interpretive approaches of John Coltrane and Sonny Rollins toward a theme by Thelonious Monk, if performed in association WITH Monk or with Horace Silver, Mal Waldron, or Cedar Walton. When I concluded, I found that she had eaten all of my French fries. Damn it, now I’M fantasizing about Alphagene in a lab coat. * * * Uke ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/50 "1999-11-12T17:16:00Z")
I have a feeeling that our second NY get-together is going to be VERRRRRY interesting. ---
**Author:** ![SaxFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SaxFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaxFace)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/51 "1999-11-12T17:52:00Z")
I second that notion, Flora. I think I’ll have to get drunk _before_ I have to face all of you. ---
**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 1999, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/52 "1999-11-12T23:04:00Z")
> [@](#): > > So you like to live dangerously, huh, St. Alphie? Danger is my middle name, Saxy. Actually it’s my confirmation name. Fedora shemdora. When you have hair as vibrant and full of volume and pro-vitamins as mine, you show it off to the world. Because I’m worth it. * * * Back off, man. I’m a scientist. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 1999, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/53 "1999-11-15T06:23:00Z")
Flora, Thursday (or Wednesday, in deference to Uke) would be just fine with me. There are plenty of Kosher places. Do you want to meet uptown, downtown, Brooklyn, Queens? Prefer Chinese, BBQ, Deli? I can give you a few choices, based on region or cuisine. Chaim Mattis Keller ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 1999, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/54 "1999-11-18T22:03:00Z")
Okay, I better haul this back up to the top because I’ll be outta town next week…hope to be able to read and post, but one never knows. We’re agreed on Wednesday, Dec. 8. We’ve agreed to dine in addition to soaking up the liquor. Our little party will encompass Flora McFlimsey, Saxface (aka Melanie), TubaDiva, Alphagene, Cap’n Crude, cmkeller, manhattan, and myself. Where are we meeting? Discuss, boys and girls. * * * Uke ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 1999, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/55 "1999-11-18T22:13:00Z")
**CM** , I think we found that most people found midtown most convenient. So work from there and post a few restaurants in different cuisines. Alternatively, a link to a site of kosher restaurants in NY would be great. Also, forgive my ignorance on this issue. Do kosher restaurants have full bars? Or should we meet at a bar and go eat later (or the other way around)? Kosher BBQ? I like that one already. Finally, other NYers speak up now! ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/56 "1999-11-23T06:19:00Z")
Just bumping this to the top in hopes that **cmkeller** has a restaurant list ready. Also, other New Yorkers, now is the time to weigh in. Cap’n? Pixoid (I think)? Ahunter? * * * Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 1999, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/57 "1999-11-22T20:12:00Z")
Well, I’ll be out of town till Dec. 6 (off in H’wood hobnobbing with the stars), so let me know what you all decide. I have a low-cut sweater and my highest heels, and will be full of the devil. CM, is it OK if a non-Kosher gal sits on your lap? ---
**Author:** ![SaxFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SaxFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaxFace)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 1999, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/58 "1999-11-22T20:39:00Z")
And Cap’n, is it okay if an innocent school girl asks to see your shaved scrotum? * * * Formerly unknown as “Melanie” ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 1999, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/59 "1999-11-22T20:44:00Z")
Mel, puh-LEASE! I think a Lady would at least wait till the second date for that . . . ---
**Author:** ![SaxFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SaxFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaxFace)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 1999, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835/60 "1999-11-22T20:55:00Z")
Awww, what’s the point? It’s all going to dissolve into a heated vat of acid in the long run. I like to get things over with and move on. Sorry, my corsett is too tight today and these thigh high boots are cutting off circulation! Cranky, cranky * * * Formerly unknown as “Melanie” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-sdmb-redux/11835.md?page=4)