# NYC Subway warriors: Check this out **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 29, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118 "2005-08-29T16:52:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/1 "2005-08-29T16:52:22Z")
[This](http://www.onnyturf.com/subwaymap.php) is a Google Maps hack which overlays all the subway lines on a google map of NYC. You can move around and zoom and search for addresses and click on the stations for info! Infinitely more useful than [MTA map](http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm) which hardly shows any streets at all. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/2 "2005-08-29T17:30:06Z")
**This Is The Coolest Thing Ever!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/3 "2005-08-29T17:59:13Z")
No. No no no no **NO**. What this is is just plain **wrong**. Part of the initiation of every New Yorker is **finding the subway station nearest a given address _using maps that do not agree_**. The subway is not just a mode of transportation: it is New York Basic Training. It is where you learn the ethos of the city: watching out for number one; learning to save minutes or even seconds; tolerance for people and things that are dirty or obnoxious or uncomfortable; and doing the best you can when those things and people will not cooperate with you, or each other. There’s a reason the MTA didn’t do this themselves. It’s the reason they didn’t allow free transfers between buses and subways: New York is not supposed to be user friendly. To the extent it becomes user friendly, it loses something of its vital character. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/4 "2005-08-29T17:59:50Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > [This](http://www.onnyturf.com/subwaymap.php) is a Google Maps hack which overlays all the subway lines on a google map of NYC. You can move around and zoom… Google Earth can do this for all metropolitan commuter lines. I’m not sure about being able to click on a station to get an address because I haven’t tried that. ---
**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/5 "2005-08-29T18:30:25Z")
Or check out [Hopstop](http://www.hopstop.com), a Mapquest-like service for the NYC mass-transit system. Sorry, **Beware of Doug** , it’s quite user friendly. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Side_of_the_Floyd)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/6 "2005-08-29T18:36:19Z")
Nice. ---
**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/7 "2005-08-29T18:37:51Z")
This rocks. Thanks, **friedo**. The only thing it’s missing is the station-by-station statistical likelihood of having your crap rummaged through by the powers that be. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/8 "2005-08-29T18:39:41Z")
> [@Hoops](#): > > Or check out [Hopstop](http://www.hopstop.com), a Mapquest-like service for the NYC mass-transit system. > > Sorry, **Beware of Doug** , it’s quite user friendly. 🙂 G’wan, I was just whooshin’ youse. I’ll no doubt be using both of them myself… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/9 "2005-08-29T21:20:49Z")
BTW: There is some amusement to be had by scrolling beyond New York’s borders. ---
**Author:** ![Watcher\_of\_the\_Skies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/45deac/32.png) [@Watcher\_of\_the\_Skies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Watcher_of_the_Skies)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/10 "2005-08-30T03:01:54Z")
Very cool. Thanks **friedo**. ---
**Author:** ![miamouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@miamouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miamouse)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyc-subway-warriors-check-this-out/319118/11 "2005-08-30T19:51:04Z")
Thanks so much! It even looks like its to scale. Now all we need is for them to put a little directional at the top of the post when you get above ground so I won’t be disoriented for 10 seconds about which way I’m facing.