# NYPD badges **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 12, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938 "2005-06-12T04:22:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938/1 "2005-06-12T04:22:29Z")
On a recent episode of _NYPD Blue_, I noticed that our intrepid heroes each have a small sort of snap-closed package underneath the badge he/she wears. Uniformed officers don’t seem to have this item, but instead have a bunch of horizontal bars under the shield. I recently noticed that Sipowics’s badge appears upside down compared to Clark’s. What does this mean? What is inside the closed part of the detectives’ badges and what do the horizontal bars mean? Around here, police officers wear a shield on the left of the shirt or jacket. Any decorations the officer has earned are worn on the right. A Texas Ranger’s badge really is a star. So, how do NYPD badges work? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938/2 "2005-06-12T04:35:00Z")
[NYPD badges.](http://perso.wanadoo.fr/copspassions/BadgesNYPD.htm) ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938/3 "2005-06-12T12:18:12Z")
Detectives normally carry their badges in a wallet sort of case which also contains their ID. Sometimes, they need the badge exposed for easy view, like at crime scenes. That’s when you see what you describe on NYPD blue, and I have always assumed that upside down vs right side up depends on how it is attached to the clothing. Detectives who are in uniform for whatever reason wear their badges as uniformed officers do. There is another method, usually used by plainclothes officers which involves a case with velcro on one side which is then either worn on a chain around the neck or on the belt. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938/4 "2005-06-12T17:10:53Z")
Looking on silenus’ link, who does/did badge #3100 belong to? ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938/5 "2005-06-12T17:43:18Z")
Here’s [a link from the NYPD museum](http://www.nycpolicemuseum.org/html/history/nypd-shields/shields.html) that’ll give you a better view of the different “shields”. (Sorry, **silenius** , that page took _forever_ to load, and I have cable internet). Tripler It’s got some other interesting pages too . . . ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938/6 "2005-06-12T18:01:34Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > Looking on silenus’ link, who does/did badge #3100 belong to? #3100 is just a blank number, which is associated with the old telephone switching station and line number for the City Police HQ: Spring 3100. Over the years, it’s come to represent the NYPD. [Cite](http://www.nycpolicemuseum.org/html/faq.html#begin) and quote: > [@](#): > > When the N.Y.P.D. decided to create and publish a magazine in 1930, they held a competition to name it. The winning entry was the telephone exchange number for the old Police Headquarters building on Centre Street. This number has become a symbol not only of the magazine but also of the N.Y.P.D. As such, it is sometimes used when a photograph of a shield, squad car or other piece of equipment is shown in Department publications. Tripler I’m still more partial to “Pennsylvania 6-5000”. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nypd-badges/307938/7 "2005-06-12T19:05:43Z")
It seems that **doreen** ’s answer is pretty much on the money. Accroding to Alan Sepinwall’s [NYPD Blue fansite FAQ](http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~sepinwal/faq.html#shields): > [@](#): > > **Why do the detectives sometimes wear their shields upside down?** > > Some eagle-eyed viewers have noted that certain scenes feature our heroes wearing their shields upside down, which would seem to be in direct contradiction to the uniform code. Once again, we go straight to Bill Clark for the answer. According to Bill, the shields are only upside-down during outdoor cold weather scenes. The badgeholder is designed to fit into a suit jacket or shirt-pocket lapel so that it appears right side up, but with an overcoat it’s trickier. Instead, you have to clip it onto the outside of the coat, and the clip, for whatever reason, is designed in such a way that the shield hangs upside down. No disrespect intended; that’s the way they’re made. Bill Clark is a former NYPD detective who was the show’s main consultant and the source for many of its epsiode storylines.