# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/261 "2024-04-11T13:01:20Z")

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That was my assumption. There have been various rude words along the way it hasn’t accepted either.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/262 "2024-04-11T13:48:41Z")

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According to [sbsolver.com](http://sbsolver.com), Monday was the first time the word ‘rapping’ has appeared and thus the first time ‘raping’ was disallowed. I don’t have any beef with the word being left out…I’m just surprised it hasn’t come up before.

I played around with a few other words just to see how often they occurred and came across a little factoid that made me feel like a complete idiot: The letters ‘r’ and ‘e’ are never used in the same puzzle. I can’t believe I never noticed. 🤦‍♂️

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/263 "2024-04-11T13:51:33Z")

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Wow! I never noticed that either. I guess it would be a huge puzzle.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/264 "2024-04-11T13:54:29Z")

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It makes sense. I tried some other versions of the Bee that included the ‘s’ in the puzzle, and also the ‘e’ and ‘r’ combo. Tedious as hell.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/265 "2024-04-11T14:21:41Z")

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What was the max on that puzzle a couple of years ago - something in excess of 500?

nm - it was 537.

Also, I tried backbit on a lark, but lo and behold…

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/266 "2024-04-11T14:54:53Z")

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537? Wow. What was the pangram?

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/267 "2024-04-11T14:56:35Z")

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There were 7! VECTON-I.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/268 "2024-04-11T14:57:14Z")

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Wow again. I just looked it up.

**CONNECTIVE, CONVECTION, CONVECTIVE, CONVENIENT, CONVENTION, EVICTION, INCONVENIENT**

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/269 "2024-04-12T18:44:42Z")

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I was disappointed today when the Bee failed to recognize dunnage. Anybody who’s ever been involved with loading and/or shipping of cargo knows what the word is and uses it regularly.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/270 "2024-04-12T18:49:26Z")

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I’m sorry, but that’s a working class word, and hence Sam will find it obscure.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/271 "2024-04-15T14:28:19Z")

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Even though I expected that it wouldn’t accept it, I was still annoyed that yesterday’s puzzle didn’t accept the pangram PAVLOVIAN.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/272 "2024-04-15T14:42:47Z")

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Oh man, I was so proud of myself when I found that, only to be disappointed.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/273 "2024-04-15T15:20:06Z")

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I suppose it’s a proper noun but today’s (April 15) wouldn’t take Valhalla. Oh well. Got there in the end anyway.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/274 "2024-04-19T14:02:05Z")

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I was kind of disappointed that the Thurs 4/18 Spelling Bee did not accept KILLBOT. ☹

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/275 "2024-04-19T14:32:11Z")

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Me too! Worth a shot, though. If Letter Boxed is willing to accept BRAINFART, you might as well try everything just in case.

(That said, I was immensely disappointed the other day when Spelling Bee wouldn’t accept GLABELLA. It’s a perfectly cromulent word!)

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/276 "2024-04-19T16:16:37Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I was kind of disappointed that the Thurs 4/18 Spelling Bee did not accept KILLBOT

Heh. Good to know that I wasn’t the only person who tried that word!

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/277 "2024-04-19T16:29:37Z")

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When I’m trying to get the last few words, I usually work my way through the compound words like that, trying to see which ones were included.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/278 "2024-04-21T13:27:25Z")

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Today they didn’t take MIDDEN, MUDDED, or DIMED (as in they nickel-and-dimed me to death).

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/279 "2024-04-21T13:38:46Z")

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I know! They hate anthropology and archaeology. Super common words in those realms (like “midden”) never count. Same with linguistics, perhaps ironically.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/280 "2024-04-21T14:44:26Z")

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Also not accepted: UNDINE.

(As in the mythical aquatic creature, not the reverse of dining, whatever that may be.)

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