# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3161 "2026-09-05T16:18:58Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> The root word would be MAGIC (verb). The K is inserted when adding a suffix beginning with an E, I, or Y but the pronunciation of the final C is not changed.

No one here is unaware of this. The point was it’s not in the M-W dictionary, hence a reason why it’s not included in the Spelling Bee.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3162 "2026-09-05T16:27:50Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> The point was it’s not in the M-W dictionary, hence a reason why it’s not included in the Spelling Bee.

Someone pointed out way upthread that there’s no single dictionary that’s the basis of the wordlist for this game.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3163 "2026-09-05T16:38:46Z")

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That is true, plus plenty of other words that are in Merriam-Webster aren’t allowed for the puzzle.

BTW, when I get down to the last few words for which I need a hint, I will sometimes check the Spelling Bee Buddy page. I was pleased to see that the two words I was stuck on today (manikin and manakin) were the least often found words. So at least it’s not just me.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3164 "2026-09-06T00:42:43Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> BTW, when I get down to the last few words for which I need a hint, I will sometimes check the Spelling Bee Buddy page. I was pleased to see that the two words I was stuck on today (manikin and manakin) were the least often found words. So at least it’s not just me.

It’s the first ever appearance for both words, so today I learned that a MANIKIN is a dummy and a MANAKIN is a bird. I managed (maniged?) to get neither.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3165 "2026-09-07T04:53:52Z")

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I was disappointed that BENDED wasn’t accepted today, as in on bended knee. OTOH that would have made for a total of 69 words, 52 of them starting with B

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3166 "2026-09-07T15:40:38Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> I was disappointed that BENDED wasn’t accepted today,

Yeah, I try that one every time just in case.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3167 "2026-09-07T16:45:43Z")

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Same.

Could not get DEPECHE out of my head today.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3168 "2026-09-09T05:25:03Z")

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I couldn’t get FELICITATE out of my head today. It isn’t accepted, but it’s kind of close to another word that is.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3169 "2026-09-09T13:39:11Z")

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Has there ever been a lower-scoring puzzle than today’s: 42 to Genius and 60 to QB?

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3170 "2026-09-09T13:45:02Z")

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The lowest point total was 47 points and 16 words on March 27, 2023 and about six or seven below today’s 60 point total.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3171 "2026-09-10T03:18:40Z")

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Still won’t take “pruno”.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3172 "2026-09-11T10:59:19Z")

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You knew it wouldn’t be there, but DICKHEAD was certainly worth trying.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3173 "2026-09-11T11:12:49Z")

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It was my first try

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3174 "2026-09-11T11:55:17Z")

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I went through today’s SB relatively quickly, but then I got stuck with only the pangram remaining. I was rightfully pissed at myself when I finally figured it out.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3175 "2026-09-11T11:58:13Z")

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Pretty much the same here. DICKHEAD had me thinking in the wrong direction. My last word was KIDDIE.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3176 "2026-09-11T13:44:22Z")

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I think Sam’s just fucking with us.

(Got to Genius, but still haven’t gotten the pangram yet.)

ETA: and as soon as I posted that, I figured it out.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3177 "2026-09-11T13:45:45Z")

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I also got to Genius without the pangram, and then finally got it. I oughta push for QB now…

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3178 "2026-09-11T13:55:17Z")

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No sooner did I post that, then I got QB!

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3179 "2026-09-11T13:55:52Z")

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When I saw that my last word started with KH, I thought, Here’s another of Sam’s obscure cuisine words. But no, it turned out so be something I knew quite well. In fact, I am wearing it right now.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/3180 "2026-09-11T14:11:31Z")

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I’m very disappointed in myself for not thinking of dickhead. I can only blame lack of coffee.

I would have thought dickie would be allowed.

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