# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/521 "2024-07-13T10:48:56Z")

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I’m sorry, Sam, but bulling is definitely a word.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/522 "2024-07-13T11:27:49Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> bulling is definitely a word.

Which was, of course, my first entry today.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/523 "2024-07-13T11:42:52Z")

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Attempted entry, of course. It’s not an obscure usage, if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/524 "2024-07-13T12:24:55Z")

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Lots of perfectly cromulent words missing today: bluing, unaging, blub/blubbing, unballing, etc.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/525 "2024-07-13T13:50:50Z")

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> [@Cugel](#):
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> Wouldn’t this be sort of how it works now, program produces a list of words, editor removes the ones they don’t “like”. The conundrum is why they don’t like word “muon”, for example

Maybe that’s how it works now, but not what I had in mind. They should go through the official list and remove all the words they don’t like once, and then they won’t have to again. That’s how consistency would happen.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/526 "2024-07-14T03:22:30Z")

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We were busy today (7/13) and I didn’t finish the Spelling Bee (ie, get to Genius) until late, but why in the world did they take UNILINGUAL and BILINGUAL (pangram), but not LINGUAL?

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/527 "2024-07-14T04:26:20Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> We were busy today (7/13) and I didn’t finish the Spelling Bee (ie, get to Genius) until late, but why in the world did they take UNILINGUAL and BILINGUAL (pangram), but not LINGUAL?

This frustrated me too! I’ve heard LINGUAL used. OTOH I’ve never heard ANNULI, which the reader clue defined as "Latin plural for rings or marriage invalidations”. Really?

And @Gyrate, agree that bluing, unaging, blub/blubbing, unballing are all words!

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/528 "2024-07-14T13:40:27Z")

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Today’s puzzle accepts NITE but doesn’t accept TONITE.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/529 "2024-07-16T09:21:47Z")

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Well that was the first time I made it to Queen Bee without difficulty. But then the number of words was quite small. Go me anyway!

No luck on WADI though.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/530 "2024-07-17T02:23:03Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Well that was the first time I made it to Queen Bee without difficulty. But then the number of words was quite small. Go me anyway!

Me, too!

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/531 "2024-07-17T02:36:10Z")

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Same!

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/532 "2024-07-17T04:07:25Z")

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Same, first time that I made it to Queen Bee without any hints except the grid! I whiffed with WADI as well. And the only reason I didn’t need a hint for my last word, RADII, was remembering it from a couple of weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/533 "2024-07-17T07:56:06Z")

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And today the great game of guessing which UN- words count versus which ones don’t continues.

Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Cugel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cugel/32/1199_2.png) [@Cugel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cugel)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/534 "2024-07-17T08:08:42Z")

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With the added grief if they are 11 letters. So the same question remains, someone goes down the list and crosses out normal words… On a whim? Roll of a dice? Word not woody enough?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/535 "2024-07-17T08:14:11Z")

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I’m still missing a few but my reasoning thus far is this: if all you have is UN- words left and you can’t get a hit by slapping an UN- onto one of the other words you’ve found, the remaining words probably don’t have another U in them.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/536 "2024-07-17T10:11:04Z")

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How can it accept untune and not detune? The latter is really the correct word.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/537 "2024-07-17T10:58:45Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And today the great game of guessing which UN- words count versus which ones don’t continues.

I’m glad you didn’t leave your irritation UNVENTED.

> **[Definition of UNVENTED](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unvented)**
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> not vented… See the full definition

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/538 "2024-07-17T11:18:26Z")

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Yes, I suspect those trying to figure it out are UNENVIED.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/539 "2024-07-17T12:57:18Z")

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It seems the wordlist is UNVETTED.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/540 "2024-07-17T13:47:23Z")

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Yeah, frustrating day for sure. I think I tried unvented four times.

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