# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/541 "2024-07-18T10:54:52Z")

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Is this the first time it took tipi?

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/542 "2024-07-18T12:13:29Z")

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Correctomundo. It’s been rejected 55 times but persistence has paid off. Finally, it dawned on Sam that having only two ways to spell teepee was ludicrous.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/543 "2024-07-18T12:29:19Z")

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See, I spell it your way, too, but apparently the newly allowed version was preferred for a long time. I don’t really recall seeing it spelled any other way than yours, but looking at nGrams, all three have been popular at various times.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/544 "2024-07-18T12:34:48Z")

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It’s just one of those oddities about this game. One has to try a word like abattoir or tipi every time because it might be accepted, even if one is sure it’s been rejected in the past. 55 times is remarkable, though.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/545 "2024-07-18T12:39:16Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> 55 times is remarkable, though.

Yeah, that’s crazy!

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/546 "2024-07-19T17:44:56Z")

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Today is the first time I scored Genius with 43 words.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/547 "2024-07-19T18:20:18Z")

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I feel like I’m seeing more puzzles with ING+ED lately, but maybe just my imagination.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/548 "2024-07-20T04:13:32Z")

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OK, so WILDING wasn’t accepted, but WILDLING was? The former is in MW and the OED.  
My head was spinning with all the Ws today, 49 out of 57 words. And yesterday I didn’t expect the 3 variant spellings of the same word, tipi, tepee, teepee

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/549 "2024-07-20T04:16:20Z")

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Yeah, I thought it would be accepted, but I’m pretty sure I’ve tried it before to no avail.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/550 "2024-07-20T04:43:42Z")

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I’m sick of ED and ING puzzles so close together. It’s repetitive and a poor use of my word game time.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/551 "2024-07-20T15:12:23Z")

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Sometimes when I’m stuck, I try out potential words that I really don’t expect to be accepted. These guesses follow the rules of English orthography, so they’re not wild-ass guesses. Every once in a while, one of them actually hits. This happened today with orthotic.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/552 "2024-07-21T16:24:19Z")

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“Gibbets and crows!” he hissed.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/553 "2024-07-22T02:45:36Z")

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I guess Sam isn’t into poetry; they didn’t take TROCHAIC, which would have been a pangram.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/554 "2024-07-22T07:43:06Z")

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Every time it rejects a simple word, I can’t help momentarily thinking, “Am I imagining that?” No, I’m not.

I will forgive the omission of “hoon” though.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/555 "2024-07-22T08:08:05Z")

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Sam is clearly biased against musicologists, given the omission of MONODY and HYMNODY (blurred because they imply other, accepted words).

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/556 "2024-07-22T09:33:54Z")

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@Gyrate I was annoyed at both of those. And it won’t take HOYDEN either.

@commasense TROCHAIC was another too. I thought pangram! and was disappointed.

DENNED wasn’t accepted but YENNED was? I can’t see the rhyme or reason behind this.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/557 "2024-07-22T10:02:13Z")

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Ooh, I forgot about “hoyden”. An excellent word.

It also didn’t take MONONYMY but did take HOMONYMY.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/558 "2024-07-22T11:43:16Z")

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It didn’t take demonym, either. Hmm, the discourse dictionary doesn’t discern demonym, dodos.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/559 "2024-07-23T00:14:40Z")

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Yes, very disappointing to see Not in Word List come up when I entered DEMONYM. However DONEE is considered a valid word. Really??

I made it to Queen Bee thanks to a hint for MONEYMEN which I never would have guessed without the hint. In fact my phone doesn’t think it’s a word and has the wavy red line under it as I type.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/560 "2024-07-23T02:11:54Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> I’m sick of ED and ING puzzles so close together. It’s repetitive and a poor use of my word game time.

I was slightly annoyed the other day when it had ED and ING so for every verb I had to try adding each of those on the ends.

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