# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/41 "2023-12-19T01:32:09Z")

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It bothers me that it takes DUNNO but not AMINE. TEFF was finally added. Several friends and I have a Messenger chat used only for listing words that should be in the Bee and aren’t.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/42 "2023-12-19T01:45:45Z")

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They added “gigging” at some point.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/43 "2023-12-19T01:53:20Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> The easiest way to make sure there is one is to start with a word that is composed of exactly 7 different letters and then choose an index letter.

Occasionally, however, there is one pangram and it’s composed of 8 or more letters.

For instance, the 11/24 puzzle had one pangram: FACTOTUM

I remember this because that’s a word that I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen before.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/44 "2023-12-19T02:05:05Z")

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Amnion, anomia, anoxia, agonal, adit, hatful, inguinal, hiatal, lardon, landau, ling, manioc, nicotinic, pithing, pruno, tartaric, rarify, tigon…

They have chica, but not chico.

I’ll try to calm down now.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/45 "2023-12-19T02:08:37Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> > [@dtilque](#):
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> > The easiest way to make sure there is one is to start with a word that is composed of exactly 7 different letters and then choose an index letter.
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> Occasionally, however, there is one pangram and it’s composed of 8 or more letters.

Not just occasionally, but rather usually. Perfect pangrams (those with 7 total letters) are less common than those with more than 7.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/46 "2023-12-23T14:23:50Z")

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Today they took lorry!

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/47 "2023-12-23T16:10:22Z")

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But not yoyo.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/48 "2023-12-23T16:14:22Z")

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I admit that I needed a hint to get the pangram today. The combination of letters made it not so obvious.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/49 "2023-12-23T19:56:40Z")

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Hyphenated, sadly.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/50 "2023-12-23T19:57:25Z")

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And yet today, it accepted yoohoo.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/51 "2023-12-24T04:45:08Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> it accepted yoohoo

I can’t remember it not accepting that. Also boohoo and booboo.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/52 "2023-12-24T14:53:16Z")

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Nappy doesn’t mean Afrotextured hair here so the ambiguity doesn’t come up, although I’m aware of the American connotations.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/53 "2023-12-25T15:33:56Z")

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I was disappointed that it didn’t take **porphyry** the other day. Hey, if it comes up in autocorrect it must be a word, right?

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/54 "2024-01-05T14:12:13Z")

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So today it accepted ‘diddle’ and ‘diddled’ but not ‘doddle’ or ‘doddled’. I can’t even begin to formulate a rule that would accept the former but not the latter.

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Has it occurred to you that the NYT might be running an elaborate Turing test of some sort with its « contestants » ?

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I’m not familiar with “doddle” but was able to use “doodle” today.

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I know the word “diddle” but I don’t think I’ve ever heard “doddle.” “Dawdle,” sure. And “dodder.” But “doddle” is new to me.

ETA: Looks to be British slang for “an easy task.”

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It didn’t like “Lido”. Must be too British.

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BTW, one of the things I do is look to see if it’s a bingo today (meaning there’s at least one word starting with each of the seven letters) and if it is, trying to come up with a word for each.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/60 "2024-01-08T07:15:05Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It didn’t like “Lido”. Must be too British

It’s capitalized over here, I guess.

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