# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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I think I lucked out with the way the letters were initially arranged, because the pangram was the _first_ word I saw.

I have also been reminded that “woot” is officially in the dictionary now.

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TIL that “[Titian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titian_hair)” (the hair color) remains capitalized because it specifically refers to the painter. And thus is disallowed.

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But I try it every time. Just because things could change.

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True. Today’s “Letter Boxed” accepted “Halon”.

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Attempted but missing today for various reasons: assorted Britishisms (“moggy”, “gammy”), a baseball acronym (“LOOGY”) and an obscure musical term (“plagal”).

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Evidently “gloam” is too old and “glamp” is too new.

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I was wondering about “glamp”. I’ve only ever seen it in “glamping” form.

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Today:

Not accepted: ARGH

Accepted: AARGH

🤨

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Not that today’s (Sunday) puzzle needs any more words, but WITHE and HITHE are too archaic to make the cut.

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I was going to mention a few days ago, when the pangram was VIBRANT (we don’t need to blur words from several days ago, do we?), that I had gotten part way through the puzzle, then took a nap. As I woke up, two new words popped into my head, one I was sure was the pangram: VARIANT and BIVARIANT. The first was accepted, the second wasn’t. Too obscure, I guess.

A few days later I came across BIVARIANT in a book I was reading.

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I tried WITHE too, and was pleasantly surprised that WIGHT wasn’t considered too archaic.  
After getting WHINGING, I didn’t expect WHINGEING to be accepted as well.

And yesterday, I tried and missed with TITIAN (mentioned above), as well as INANITION, ANTINOMIAN and AMANITA.

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> [@gkster](#):
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> After getting WHINGING, I didn’t expect WHINGEING to be accepted as well.

Variant spelling have supposedly been removed from the list of accepted words, but there’s a number of them still there. I have a list of them if anyone wants to see it.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Variant spelling have supposedly been removed from the list of accepted words,

The rules used to say that variant spellings weren’t valid, but they no longer say that.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I have a list of them if anyone wants to see it.

Sure, post it.

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OK, list of variant spelling accepted:

ageing, aging  
ambiance, ambience  
ameba(e), amoeba(e)  
bandana, bandanna  
benefited, benefitted  
binging, bingeing  
caky, cakey  
canceling(ed), cancelling(ed)  
caiman, cayman  
coifed, coiffed  
donut, doughnut  
doxed, doxxed  
duffel, duffle  
eyeing, eying  
glamor, glamour  
grandad, granddad  
hiccuped, hiccupped  
idyl, idyll  
likeable, likable  
liveable, livable  
lollygag, lallygag  
loveable, lovable  
loveably, lovably  
mama, mamma, momma  
moola, moolah  
myna, mynah  
nunchuk, nunchuck  
omelet, omelette  
papa, poppa  
papaw, pawpaw  
pewee, peewee  
petit, petite  
pipet, pipette  
pizazz, pizzazz  
queueing, queuing  
tepee, teepee  
tingeing, tinging  
vaxed, vaxxed  
veld, veldt  
weenie, wienie  
whingeing, whinging

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Thanks. I’ve learned to play most if not all of these, which means Sam will start removing some.

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Sam Ezersky’s love of fabrics strikes again, with TAFFETA.

And @dtilque that list of variant spellings is helpful. Thanks; I hope they stay around!

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> [@gkster](#):
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> Sam Ezersky’s love of fabrics strikes again, with TAFFETA

Not an unusual fabric or word, though, unlike nanking (?).

Typically used in fancy dresses. My German great-grandmother got married in a gold-colored taffeta dress.

Also used in Joni Mitchell’s _Michael from Mountains_.

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At least I’ve heard of that one.

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One of the first words I saw today was DICOT, which I remember from Botany class. It’s in M-W too. But sadly it’s not on the list.

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