# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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I was surprised it different take monotonic. A few weeks ago, it didn’t take “bulled”, which it should have (not like bullshitted, but like forced your way forward).

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My father was a music major in college, so I may have grown up knowing more obscure music terms like continuo than most people. And since I’ve known it for a long time, it’s not obscure to _me_.

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> [@commasense](#):
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> And since I’ve known it for a long time, it’s not obscure to _me_.

This is exactly why the game should be based on a dictionary list of words, rather that a Sam Ezersky-curated list of words that aren’t obscure to _him_.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/84 "2024-02-20T20:55:31Z")

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I feel it should be based on some sort of curated list, not just the whole dictionary. Pretty much all word games work with an edited list, I’ve found, and when I programmed my own version of Lingo (pretty much the same as Wordle) fifteen years ago as a programming exercise for myself, I quickly found an unbounded word list to kill the fun. But, yeah, what word list is always going to be the question.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/85 "2024-02-20T21:33:39Z")

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Where to find a curated dictionary specifically designed for a game about what words can be formed from a limited selection of letters? It’s a tough one, but if you grope and scrabble around long enough you might find something somewhere.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/86 "2024-02-20T22:28:50Z")

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At some point ‘baud’ became acceptable. Also another…maybe doggo?

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Also another…maybe doggo?

Yep. Why can’t he add words I _like_? Next will be “furbaby”.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/88 "2024-02-20T22:41:59Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Also another…maybe doggo?

AFAIK, _doggo_ has been a valid word since I’ve been playing.

> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Why can’t he add words I _like_?

Try emailing him. Maybe he’ll add them.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/89 "2024-02-20T22:48:52Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Try emailing him. Maybe he’ll add them. -

Been doing that for maybe a couple years. I don’t have a lot of influence with Mr. Ezersky. I imagine he get swamped with emails.

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I imagine he get swamped with emails.

Which is why I have never bothered. I figure any suggestion I would make has been made by others but without success.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/91 "2024-02-20T22:58:53Z")

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A Scrabble dictionary is WAY too broad in my opinion for a casual word game. I am very much aware of Scrabble words, and I have the 2- and most 3- letter words memorized, and I used to own a hard copy of one. Use to play online using SOWPODS and all that. But I would never inflict those words on the general public, myself. That’s like using an unabridged dictionary, not a curated one.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/92 "2024-02-21T10:49:33Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> It’s a tough one, but if you grope and scrabble around long enough you might find something somewhere.

It boggles the mind.

I know “continuo”, but then I’m a classical musician by training (if not by trade).

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/93 "2024-02-21T12:13:39Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I feel it should be based on some sort of curated list, not just the whole dictionary.

I agree with that. Based on this gift link article, it almost seems like he’s making decisions on a day-to-day basis, but I might be misreading that.

> **[Your Spelling Bee Questions, Answered (Published 2022)](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/14/briefing/spelling-bee-questions-and-answers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XE0.ui_V.IDeXtJmzr0y5&smid=url-share)**
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> Sam Ezersky on how he crafts the Bee and how to be a better solver.

Also, responding to someone else, doggo has been accepted for a long time.

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Today they are accepting groupie, but not pirogue.

So I guess, son of a gun, no big fun on the bayou today.

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Today?

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It’s [spellsbee.com](http://spellsbee.com). Not the same as the Times?

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/97 "2024-02-28T14:13:43Z")

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It did accept dildo the other day.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/98 "2024-02-28T14:15:39Z")

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It has always accepted that, as long as I’ve been playing.

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I meant to post this earlier, but got distracted by life.

On Friday, when the pangram was WORKLOAD (in case someone is still playing old ones), they didn’t accept WOODLARK, which I saw immediately I opened the page. I had noticed this fact some time earlier.

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How about barback from today’s bee? I think that was unacceptable not too long ago.

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