# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/981 "2024-12-26T17:25:34Z")

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As a verb, yes. As a noun, no.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/982 "2024-12-26T18:56:57Z")

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Hey, if you’ve got TEFF, you’ve also got FETE and EFFETE, so think of it as part of an 8-point word block. Plus, next time you go to an Ethiopian restaurant, you’ll know what the injera is made from.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/983 "2024-12-28T01:53:37Z")

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So CLAMMY is good, but not CLAMMILY…

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/984 "2024-12-28T02:14:24Z")

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I once again wonder why glia is allowed, but not the more-often-used glial.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/985 "2024-12-28T10:03:57Z")

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_Seven_ pangrams today.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/986 "2024-12-29T04:05:24Z")

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Does anyone know if that’s a record?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/987 "2024-12-29T04:08:55Z")

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That seemed like a lot of pangrams, plus there were nine words of ten characters or more. No -ed or -ing but there were lots of -tion words.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/988 "2024-12-29T04:18:23Z")

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The most ever was [eight](https://www.sbsolver.com/s/1318) but it feels like a bit of a cheat because it had both canceling and cancelling.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/989 "2024-12-30T23:14:43Z")

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These should be allowed:

FLORIN  
OFFLINING  
FRIGGING

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/990 "2024-12-31T11:10:53Z")

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I agree.

And today (Tuesday) - still no NAPHTHA despite assorted other chemical compounds being accepted.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/991 "2025-01-02T13:13:25Z")

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I’m 80% sure that it used to be accepted.

So, for today’s puzzle, give me a break with avaunt.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/992 "2025-01-02T13:33:42Z")

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And I wouldn’t call AVEA an ordinary, non-obscure word. I only got it by trying random combinations.

I was annoyed they didn’t take TOOLBAG yesterday.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/993 "2025-01-02T13:41:26Z")

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I assume you mean UVEA which is also in today’s crossword.

And I agree on TOOLBAG yesterday. As for today, I thought VETTED should have also yielded UNVETTED, but no.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/994 "2025-01-02T13:44:24Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I assume you mean UVEA which is also in today’s crossword.

Oops, yes.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/995 "2025-01-02T14:46:22Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And I agree on TOOLBAG yesterday. As for today, I thought VETTED should have also yielded UNVETTED, but no.

Agreed. Also, if you replace the fifth letter of that word with an N, I thought that would be accepted as well.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/996 "2025-01-02T15:22:25Z")

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I’m quite surprised today’s didn’t allow EVENTUATE and EVENTUATED. The second one would be a pangram.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/997 "2025-01-02T15:34:05Z")

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Oooh good one! I didn’t even think of that.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/998 "2025-01-02T22:21:26Z")

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Naphtha has never been accepted. Too bad, NAPHTHALENE would be a killer pangram, accompanying ELEPHANT and PENTATHLETE.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/999 "2025-01-02T22:27:50Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> So, for today’s puzzle, give me a break with avaunt.

That was the last word I needed for Queen Bee and I just stumbled upon it by trying various things.

And yes, I tried naphtha the other day.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1000 "2025-01-02T22:35:39Z")

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Well, I _was_ only 80% sure. There’s a word similar to that that is or was accepted.

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