# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** board-card-word-game\ **Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1041 "2025-01-12T21:32:20Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Saturday: there are a zillion different variant spellings in use for [PAPADAM](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papadam) (the package in my kitchen right now says “Pappadums” on it). Pretty much all of them would work with this letter set. None of them do. I was _trying_ various variant spellings (including papad) but none worked And given that there is no “standard” spelling, it’s probably best that the word is not included. ---
**Author:** ![Cugel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cugel/32/1199_2.png) [@Cugel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cugel)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1042 "2025-01-13T09:30:51Z")
Count me in as well with many attempts at poppadom, previously kebab was amusingly spelled kabob, so I felt anything was possible. And cantrip even has its own wiki page. Get this joker a dose of Google, stat. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1043 "2025-01-13T10:46:31Z")
> [@Cugel](#): > > Count me in as well with many attempts at poppadom, previously kebab was amusingly spelled kabob, so I felt anything was possible. Funny you should say that… Also, today (Monday) can fuck right off with [JABOT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabot_(neckwear)). Are these puzzles set by frustrated tailors or something? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1044 "2025-01-13T12:04:22Z")
That was the second word I got. I’ll bet Sam (like me) has read a lot of period fiction. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1045 "2025-01-13T20:45:02Z")
I mind words that aren’t there, not words that are. ACTINIC annoys me. JABOT does not. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1046 "2025-01-14T12:16:20Z")
How do you feel about MILT? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1047 "2025-01-14T13:28:40Z")
Like MILO, a word I occasionally type in, as a gesture of futility. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1048 "2025-01-14T16:28:51Z")
Also annoyed! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1049 "2025-01-14T16:56:50Z")
I could have sworn that ILIA was accepted before ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1050 "2025-01-14T17:36:20Z")
ILIA has never been accepted, but ILIUM has a bunch of times. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1051 "2025-01-14T21:35:50Z")
Isn’t today’s pangram a proper name? As far as I can tell, it should be capitalized. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1052 "2025-01-14T22:08:05Z")
Merriam-Webster has that word in lower case. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1053 "2025-01-14T22:17:34Z")
Although it says “often capitalized”, and dog-breeding guidelines say to capitalize breeds named after something, like Akita and Dalmatian, but not other types (golden retriever). I think it’s really iffy. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1054 "2025-01-14T22:29:11Z")
I agree with RitterSport. And not just because I like the chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1055 "2025-01-14T23:43:50Z")
Haha! Hard to disagree with a Ritter Sport bar, that’s for sure. It’s square! Practical! ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1056 "2025-01-15T12:32:12Z")
Yeah, they take several words that I consider proper nouns, e.g., Panama and Morocco, presumably because they commonly modify other terms, like hats and leather. I still think they shouldn’t be allowed. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1057 "2025-01-15T13:07:57Z")
Yet again, no “liana.” In even the simplest botany, this is almost as common and normal as the word “tree” or “shrub”! ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1058 "2025-01-15T13:08:53Z")
I was unhappy they didn’t accept “milt.” But it’s not as bad as “liana” (to me). ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1059 "2025-01-16T02:18:14Z")
All kinds of obscure Indian foods and yoga terms accepted, but standard English words like dado and milt not. And there are two words in today’s puzzle that are simply beyond me, beginning TI and TU, ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1060 "2025-01-17T12:05:50Z")
Still no FENNEC or TIFFIN. No CENTILE either. Or ENCEINTE, although that’s probably too French. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739.md?page=54)