# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1241 "2025-03-12T16:32:07Z")

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I often get to Genius without the pangram.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1242 "2025-03-12T19:38:46Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I still got lots of pages with “ruff and sluff”

Ruff is a word in and of itself - the ruff around a collar.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1243 "2025-03-12T19:39:34Z")

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Sam should have waited a couple weeks and introduced the “S” on April Fool’s Day.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1244 "2025-03-12T19:42:46Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> > [@dtilque](#):
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> > I still got lots of pages with “ruff and sluff”
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> Ruff is a word in and of itself - the ruff around a collar.

It’s a word in and of itself in bridge, too. What’s your point?

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1245 "2025-03-12T19:50:13Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Sam should have waited a couple weeks and introduced the “S” on April Fool’s Day

Is there typically fuckery on April 1st?

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1246 "2025-03-12T19:54:47Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> It’s a word in and of itself in bridge, too. What’s your point?

I think that “sluff” isn’t allowed as an alternate spelling of “slough”, whereas “ruff” is allowed because it’s not just an alternate spelling.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1247 "2025-03-12T20:15:57Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Is there typically fuckery on April 1st? -

Not that I’m aware of.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1248 "2025-03-12T22:08:36Z")

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I’m still waiting for April 1 to be BEJKOU-X.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1249 "2025-03-13T15:50:19Z")

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A central Q, with no U.

Queen Bee after one word: [QINDARKA](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/qindarka).

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1250 "2025-03-13T15:54:56Z")

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I have been meaning to ask if there’s a possible pangram with no other words. Perfect April Fool’s prank.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1251 "2025-03-13T16:01:26Z")

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Just to be clear, the seven letters I posted can also create a pangram/QB. 😉

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1252 "2025-03-13T16:03:26Z")

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I suppose arguably you could get [QADI](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/qadi) out of QINDARKA.

Anyway: on today’s puzzle and several previous ones, I want [PIPPING](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pip) to be accepted but alas.

> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Just to be clear, the seven letters I posted can also create a pangram/QB. 😉

Okay, I’ve unscrambled that. Nice. Pretty sure that’s a one-and-done, and not even obscure.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1253 "2025-03-13T22:05:33Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> A central Q, with no U.
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> Queen Bee after one word: [QINDARKA](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/qindarka).

Nah. There’d also be the singular, so at least two words.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I suppose arguably you could get [QADI](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/qadi) out of QINDARKA.

Well, maybe three.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1254 "2025-03-14T15:07:53Z")

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I could have sworn that **lookback** was accepted a few months ago? It’s not accepted now, but surprisingly (to me), **lookbook** is.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1255 "2025-03-14T17:13:35Z")

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That word you asked about has been eligible 10 times, but never appeared.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1256 "2025-03-15T13:21:48Z")

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After being rejected 43 times, we now have to remember TORTA. And, of course, it’s food-related.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1257 "2025-03-15T13:49:00Z")

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Yeah, how about that.

Some fun words today, Genius was pretty straightforward.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1258 "2025-03-16T01:07:35Z")

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I don’t understand how they can accept “Ravioli” and not the singular, “Raviolo”.

StG

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1259 "2025-03-20T15:54:09Z")

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What, no GOUDA?

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1260 "2025-03-20T15:57:55Z")

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I was wondering about the absence of that word.

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