# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** board-card-word-game\ **Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1261 "2025-03-20T16:36:27Z")
Me too. I guess it’s because it’s a place name. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1262 "2025-03-20T17:45:49Z")
Edam and Colby haven’t been accepted, either. I assume for the same reason. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1263 "2025-03-20T19:15:50Z")
> [@susan](#): > > What, no GOUDA? RANGOON today for the same reason ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1264 "2025-03-21T04:02:20Z")
Agree-ish, but does your example ever appear on its own (without crab), as GOUDA does? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1265 "2025-03-21T08:32:53Z")
“Crab Gouda” would be disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1266 "2025-03-21T11:22:41Z")
Okay, I might try that. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1267 "2025-03-21T11:25:02Z")
I’d eat this > **[Smoked Gouda with Crab and Bacon Mac 'N Cheese](https://www.plattertalk.com/smoked-gouda-with-crab-and-bacon-mac-n/)** > > This mac and cheese recipe with crab and smoked gouda is one for the Gods. Fortunately, you can make it tonight and you'll only think you died and went to ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1268 "2025-03-21T11:26:37Z")
Oh sure, me too. If I were still eating pasta. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1269 "2025-03-22T13:33:34Z")
Saturday: I suppose I can understand the omission of OMNI but what was wrong with GNOMON (the pointy shadow-casting bit of a sundial)? Otherwise - got to Genius fairly quickly but winkling out the last half dozen took a while. The use of slang terms or colloquialisms often throws me. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1270 "2025-03-22T15:10:07Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > what was wrong with GNOMON (the pointy shadow-casting bit of a sundial)? I’ve complained here about that word not being accepted before. However, I don’t bother to complain to the NYT, since I figure it won’t do much good. Note, MONGOLOID would be a pangram if it weren’t capitalized. But it’s probably too politically incorrect to be accepted even if it weren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1271 "2025-03-22T17:35:59Z")
I was slightly annoyed that Saturday’s puzzle included omigod. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1272 "2025-03-22T17:49:48Z")
Yeah, OMIGOD and MOILING made their debut today and I can’t say I’m a fan of either. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1273 "2025-03-22T18:00:51Z")
I’m fairly new to Spelling Bee. So far, I have 22 Genius ratings for 28 games played and 26 pangrams. No idea if this is good, mediocre or ?? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1274 "2025-03-22T18:23:36Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > OMIGOD and MOILING So I assume MOIL also made its debut today? I don’t ever remember seeing to prior to today. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1275 "2025-03-22T18:25:43Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > No idea if this is good, mediocre or ?? That’s about how I did when I was new. But it’s been a long time since I haven’t gotten Genius. Several years, in fact. And that’s without using hints. I only use hints for the last few words, usually fewer than half a dozen. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1276 "2025-03-22T18:45:06Z")
Same. Now after a few months I pretty much always get Genius and have gotten two Queen Bees. No hints. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1277 "2025-03-22T19:14:45Z")
MOIL has appeared in 35 puzzles. All along I assumed it was a variant spelling of MOHEL and thus didn’t even try adding an ‘ing’ today. The dictionaries I googled classify MOIL as an archaic term, so I don’t know why it’s included. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1278 "2025-03-22T19:20:33Z")
There are strange things done in the midnight sun By the men who moil for gold The arctic trails have their secret tales That can make your blood run cold. The Northern Lights have seen queer sights But the queerest they ever did see Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge I cremated Sam McGee. [-Robert W. Service](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45081/the-cremation-of-sam-mcgee) That’s the only place I ever recall encountering the word. Actually now that I think of it, I bet it shows up in Tolkien somewhere referring to dwarves. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1279 "2025-03-22T19:22:55Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > So I assume MOIL also made its debut today? I don’t ever remember seeing to prior to today. Yes, that word was present, though I don’t know if it’s been there prior to that. I didn’t even know what the word meant but just guessed at it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1280 "2025-03-22T19:49:13Z")
I asked ChatGPT - an impeccable source - how many mohels there are in the US, and where they’re located. It claimed there are 28, with 9 in Brooklyn. Could be Sam knows somebody? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739.md?page=65)