# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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CELLULE?!? Really?

I’m 70 years old and this is the first time I’ve heard of this word. But it’s not “obscure or technical,” is it?

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I’m surprised that GAMEY isn’t allowed

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I struggled today, I won’t lie…it took me a while to find a pangram.

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I never heard the word before the Spelling Bee but it’s the 18th time it’s come up, so it’ll come around again before too long.

Now that we’ve had this conversation, you’ll probably remember it next time. If only I get could that to work for TUTTI.

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It’s only since I found Spelling Bee Buddy a few months ago that I regularly try for Queen Bee, so I doubt I’ve come across it in previous Spelling Bees.

But with luck, I _may_ remember it next time.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1446 "2025-04-24T18:21:02Z")

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I broke down and checked the hints today, and there were a few words I kicked myself for missing (a lot of easy MA words that I just couldn’t get to), and three that I had just never heard before. I assume I could have gotten to Genius without those three if I’d stuck with it.

Completely new to me: the alternative spellings of AMEBA and AMEBAE, and also BEGEM, which sounds like where drunk Bilbo tells the Uber driver to take him.

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> which sounds like where drunk Bilbo tells the Uber driver to take him.

👏

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1448 "2025-04-26T16:01:01Z")

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Wait, HALO is a verb now?

If you’re going to accept the past participle ONGOING, don’t you logically have to take the present tense form ONGO, too? Not according to Sam.

Actually, I know copy editors who deprecated the use of the former because they too denied the existence of the latter. They preferred alternates like CONTINUING, etc. (Blurred not because it’s in today’s puzzle, but so it doesn’t provide a hint.)

And decades into the computer age, why isn’t LOGON accepted?

Ever since I started playing Spelling Bee, I’ve been disappointed they didn’t accept GAOL. Yes, it’s obsolete and obscure (an old spelling of JAIL, I first saw it in _The Wind in the Willows_).

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> halo
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> 2 of 3
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> ## [verb](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verb)
> 
> haloed; haloing; haloes
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> [transitive verb](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transitive)
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> **:** to form into or surround with a halo
> 
> rainbows haloed the waterfalls—Michael Crawford

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> [@commasense](#):
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> And decades into the computer age, why isn’t LOGON accepted?

Well, really, especially since LOGIN is accepted.

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Isn’t logon normally two words?

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Not if it’s a noun

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Isn’t logon normally two words?

You’re correct that it’s two words. It’s not considered correct as one word yet (Merriam-Webster or [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com)).

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Got to Genius quickly with no hints today! Happy that what put me over the top was the ten-letter past tense verb meaning “to follow Jerry Garcia around”

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That word, along with deadhead has appeared previously.

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Me too, brother. As you know, they are probably using the more standard definition moving a cargo carrier to a location while empty

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And, of course, it refers to taking a trip without cargo (if you’re a trucker) or traveling somewhere to work as a flight attendant, without working the trip out (or back), and probably other things as well.

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I know, but that’s no fun. Also, “deadhead” in the Dead sense isn’t really used as a verb.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1459 "2025-04-28T18:53:40Z")

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Then you’re doing it wrong 😉

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I always think of that word in reference to flowers…

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