# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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Yes, it definitely would’ve been a sin had Sam included it.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Still no CAVITATE

This one really annoys me.

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I tried it and audibly groaned when it was rejected.

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And yet they allowed APPETITIVE. I’m reasonably well read and have a decent vocabulary, but I’ve never heard or seen this word.

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Today was pretty easy for me despite the missing words above and including APPETITIVE.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1626 "2025-06-24T21:08:05Z")

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I’m still plugging away towards Queen Bee, but pleased that I just made it past Genius with a word I wasn’t sure would be accepted: TITIVATE  
I’ve seen it only in the Aubrey-Maturin books, nowhere else. Maybe it’s mentioned above, but I don’t want to open spoilers yet.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1627 "2025-06-25T01:33:01Z")

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Yes, always pleased to get that one.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1628 "2025-06-25T05:02:23Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> And yet they allowed APPETITIVE. I’m reasonably well read and have a decent vocabulary, but I’ve never heard or seen this word.

Same here. I had to look at the clue for it, and even after seeing the definition I got it only after trying out several possible letter combos.

And @Gyrate I’m with you on those stupid Spanish pumpkin seeds. Even though I speak Spanish fluently and like eating the seeds

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1629 "2025-06-25T05:09:12Z")

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Still no PACA.

Which reminds me that he still doesn’t allow CAVY, although it wasn’t an option for this puzzle.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1630 "2025-06-25T05:24:55Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> And @Gyrate I’m with you on those stupid Spanish pumpkin seeds. Even though I speak Spanish fluently and like eating the seeds

I actually got that one, but not because I know the definition of the word. I probably just remembered the word from an earlier puzzle. I’m stuck on a different obscure foodie word. I’ve given up on trying to get that one.

But that brings up a problem I recently realized I have. A number of words I only get because I know they are accepted. I don’t know their meaning and don’t look them up. But that means that the clues are not very useful. So I really should be looking up the meaning of these words. Not sure I’ll remember them, which is why I haven’t looked them up previously.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1631 "2025-06-25T11:37:25Z")

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I eat PEPITAS regularly. They’re a good snack. They’re on some of the breads I eat. They’re in one of the cereals I get. They’re in one of the trail mixes I get. In my neck of the woods, they’re not exotic.

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Zipped through today’s, but no SB yet. Also breezed through Connections and Wordle. I’m on a rampage!

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That should have been “QB”, not SB. My complaint for today is that it didn’t recognize “boffin” as a word.

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Always aggravating.

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I have Genius and a few points more but no pangram yet. I am sure it will come to me.

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Literally same.

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Agreed. Another quick one.

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The pangram was my next to last find. It’s not a word I see much, and I thought it looked bogus, but I looked it up and TIL about the difference in meaning between NONBELIEF and UNBELIEF; the latter would have been my choice for the terms.

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> [@gkster](#):
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> The pangram was my next to last find.

Same for me. I had to intuit it from a clue, as I’d never seen it before.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1640 "2025-06-25T20:53:41Z")

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I always try a handful of ‘non’ words and hit on NONBELIEF thinking it would be rejected, along with NONFEEL or whatever else I tried. It’s silly, because there are so few accepted in this game. NONUNION. NONCOM. I can’t think of any more off the top of my head right now.

Which reminds me: I’ve always thought it might be interesting to play a variation of this game that penalizes wrong guesses. It would have to include a settled dictionary, though.

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