# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1661 "2025-07-01T14:15:42Z")

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Why no BOBBY? British cop. Type of hairpin

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1662 "2025-07-01T15:15:35Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Why no BOBBY?

That was one of my first words, dammit!

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1663 "2025-07-01T15:34:53Z")

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Agreed! Also, I have never in my life seen BOGEYMEN spelled with only one O (or pluralized, for that matter)

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1664 "2025-07-01T17:57:41Z")

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I think that’s the British spelling.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1665 "2025-07-01T21:04:41Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think that’s the British spelling

But for all the other words with both US and British spelling, we only get the US spelling. Why would this one be different?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1666 "2025-07-01T21:20:43Z")

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The ways of the Sam are mysterious.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1667 "2025-07-01T21:44:35Z")

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Had a terrible time with today’s puzzle. Never did find a pangram, but I guess that’s not a given.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1668 "2025-07-02T06:15:28Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Agreed! Also, I have never in my life seen BOGEYMEN spelled with only one O (or pluralized, for that matter)

I just checked the synopsis for the only place I’ve heard the pangram used, the Laurel and Hardy film Babes in Toyland, and it’s spelled with only one O there for some reason.

And @Chefguy I had a hard time with it too. Several words looked bogus to me.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1669 "2025-07-02T11:44:21Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> Several words looked bogus to me.

I don’t know about bogus, but certainly obscure.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1670 "2025-07-03T10:02:15Z")

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You think that all the chemical elements, such as LUTETIUM would be accepted, but no. Not the first in that category to be rejected, though.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1671 "2025-07-03T10:55:44Z")

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Still no MILT or TUILE. Ah well.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1672 "2025-07-03T15:29:30Z")

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All of that obscure food but not VITTLES.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1673 "2025-07-03T15:39:22Z")

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I tried the singular and was rejected. It’s a slang word and out of usage, so perhaps that’s the problem.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1674 "2025-07-03T15:40:52Z")

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Obviously I meant the singular because we don’t have an S. Maybe that was the issue.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1675 "2025-07-03T15:52:31Z")

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TIL Tender Vittles was discontinued in 2007.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1676 "2025-07-03T18:33:17Z")

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Not only has VICTUAL never appeared in a puzzle, it’s never been eligible.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1677 "2025-07-04T08:59:26Z")

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Dammit, Sam, what do you have against cute animals? If it’s not caracals, it’s fennecs.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1678 "2025-07-04T11:45:01Z")

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I tried it, though I’ve only ever seen it attached to the word ‘fox’.

I saw the point total today and almost abandoned it at the beginning, but it didn’t prove too tough.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1679 "2025-07-04T23:31:33Z")

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Yeah, it was pretty easy. And four pangrams!

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1680 "2025-07-05T00:39:16Z")

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Those pangrams have come up before, but with a different index letter (F). And only half the record number, which is 8.

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