# NYT Spelling Bee drives me crazy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739 "2023-12-17T15:50:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1961 "2025-08-18T16:58:16Z")

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I was just glad it didn’t take as long as several of the last handful.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1962 "2025-08-18T17:29:32Z")

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Me too. I was starting to doubt my skills. I got one word past G and may go back to it later.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
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Yesterday was the toughest one that I can remember. MEZZOTINT? Really?

By contrast, today’s was a cinch.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1964 "2025-08-20T14:25:58Z")

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Yeah, give me a break with that word. A few days ago, it didn’t accept guarana, even thought that’s printed on tons of energy drinks, but it takes mezzotint?

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1965 "2025-08-20T14:54:06Z")

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That (mezzotint) was a really obscure word yesterday. It was the last one I needed for Queen Bee and I needed a hint for it.

Though today (pangram: walkout), one of the accepted words was waul. It _is_ in the Merriam-Webster dictionary but it’s described as chiefly Scottish.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1966 "2025-08-20T15:19:39Z")

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It didn’t accept TONTINE yesterday which I thought was a common enough word.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1967 "2025-08-20T15:22:22Z")

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I’m 99% sure they’ve accepted it before.

I know it from _The Wrong Box_, the 1966 comedy with Michael Caine, Ralph Richardson, Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, and Peter Sellers.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1968 "2025-08-20T15:26:10Z")

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A tontine was the subject of _[Raging Abe Simpson and His Grumbling Grandson in ‘The Curse of the Flying Hellfish’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raging_Abe_Simpson_and_His_Grumbling_Grandson_in_%2527The_Curse_of_the_Flying_Hellfish%2527)_, episode 22 of the seventh season of The Simpsons.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1969 "2025-08-20T15:50:46Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> I’m 99% sure they’ve accepted it before.

It was accepted ten times before this year, but now it’s been rejected twice. Sam really is a terrible manager of this process, the whole goddamn thing could be automated, but no.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1970 "2025-08-20T18:48:42Z")

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And it’s the other way around for

WAUL, which was rejected in the first of three appearances.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1971 "2025-08-20T19:04:12Z")

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There was an episode of MASH where Col. Potter was the surviver of a tontine. That’s where I learned about it.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1972 "2025-08-20T19:13:26Z")

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There was a tontine in the Simpsons, but M\*A\*S\*H might also be where I learned about it.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1973 "2025-08-20T20:38:17Z")

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I’m pretty sure I learned

TONTINE

from the spelling bee. It’s absurd to acccept a word ten times then snatch it away. It feels more like ‘oops, I forgot’ than any sort of correction.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1974 "2025-08-21T12:43:11Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Yesterday was the toughest one that I can remember. MEZZOTINT? Really?

Weirdly, it was one of the first words I got (likely because I spotted MEZZO, which gets used in music a lot). It was TIMEZONE that took me a while - compound words are more likely to elude me.

Today’s (Thursday’s) was a snap.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1975 "2025-08-21T12:47:08Z")

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Yeah, two easy days in a row! What am I supposed to stare at during my commute home??

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Letter Boxed?

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1977 "2025-08-21T12:52:31Z")

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I already have enough daily obsessions. I’m studiously avoiding Pips, too.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1978 "2025-08-21T13:02:40Z")

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Oh, Pips is fun.

Somewhere around two minutes to Genius today, though part of that is the rare occasion of using my laptop keyboard instead of my iPad.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1979 "2025-08-23T16:51:06Z")

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Bow down to your Queen! No hints.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-spelling-bee-drives-me-crazy/994739/1980 "2025-08-23T20:49:53Z")

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Bowing to you! I got beyond Genius (36/41 words) with no hints but needed hints to get to QB. I didn’t need clues, though.

Anyone wondering when we’ll get a challenging one after several days of easy ones?

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