# NYT uses the word "lies" in a headline to describe Trump's lies **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 6, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897 "2020-11-06T14:35:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![2\_More\_Bits](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2_more_bits/32/4148_2.png) [@2\_More\_Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_More_Bits)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897/1 "2020-11-06T14:35:46Z")
I can’t find it now but yesterday (11/6) I’d swear I saw a New York Times (online) front page headline describe some of Trump’s statements as “lies” as opposed to “falsehoods” or some other such wimpy euphemisms. Is this the first time since he was elected president they’ve done that? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897/2 "2020-11-06T15:35:42Z")
Sorry, didn’t realize the was GQ. Yesterday was 11/5. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897/3 "2020-11-06T15:43:36Z")
Washington Post: Trump’s lies about the election are awful. But his spell is breaking. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897/4 "2020-11-06T16:08:49Z")
Even if this is a factual question, I think P&E will allow more latitude for commentary than GQ. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897/5 "2020-11-06T16:13:20Z")
The New York Times has a story with “falsehoods” in the headline but “lies” in the text. [In Torrent of Falsehoods, Trump Claims Election Is Being Stolen](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/us/politics/trump-presidency.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage) > [@](#): > > A presidency born in a lie about Barack Obama’s birthplace appeared on the edge of ending in a lie about his own faltering bid for re-election. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897/6 "2020-11-06T16:18:33Z")
And the NY Times used the word “lies” in a headline about its _The Daily_ program. [The President’s Damaging Lie](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/podcasts/the-daily/donald-trump-election-2020.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage) ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nyt-uses-the-word-lies-in-a-headline-to-describe-trumps-lies/924897/7 "2020-11-06T20:07:28Z")
I’m just waiting for the word Bullshit.