# O Bama has disappointed me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 9, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184 "2009-10-09T13:22:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/1 "2009-10-09T13:22:44Z")
One of his campaign promises was to sit down at the table and meet with even our enemies, if need be, in the name of finding resolution to the worlds problems. And I’m behind that thinking. But now, he’s refusing to meet with the Dalai Lama. Say what? He’ll sit down with our enemies but not the leader of a religion known largely for it’s emphasis on non violence and compassion and peace. I mean he won the Nobel Peace Prize, come on! WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/2 "2009-10-09T13:27:42Z")
“O Bama”? What the fuck is that, the state anthem of Alabama? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/3 "2009-10-09T13:31:03Z")
Linky? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/4 "2009-10-09T13:31:37Z")
I believe it’s been established in other threads that Obama has not refused to meet the Dalai Lama, just that he is not going to do so before he goes to China. So, er, your premise appears to be false. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/5 "2009-10-09T13:49:09Z")
I don’t think there’s much to be gained for the Tibetan people, or for any of our other diplomatic goals regarding China, by meeting with the Dali Lama. Tibet is going to stay under Chinese control for the indefinite future, if we want to influence their actions there, meeting with a guy they accuse of fomenting violent uprisings probably isn’t going to help. It might feel good, but I don’t think its likely to get results. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/6 "2009-10-09T13:54:16Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > But now, he’s refusing to meet with the Dalai Lama. Nope. Just meeting him after the China visit. [http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Obama\_to\_meet\_Dalai\_Lama\_after\_Chin\_10062009.html](http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Obama_to_meet_Dalai_Lama_after_Chin_10062009.html) > [@](#): > > The White House said Tuesday that President Barack Obama will meet the Dalai Lama later this year, denying he kowtowed to China by avoiding the exiled Tibetan leader on his current visit. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/7 "2009-10-09T14:37:54Z")
WTF? They’re 4-0. The defense looks great. I bet they shellac OleMiss. If so, they’ll be firmly in first place in the west - poised for a rematch showdown in Atlanta with the Gators. I also hear they won the peace prize, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/8 "2009-10-09T14:41:30Z")
Rematch? You make it sound as if they had a chance of beating Florida. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/9 "2009-10-09T14:47:42Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Rematch? You make it sound as if they had a chance of beating Florida. didn’t intend to ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/10 "2009-10-09T14:48:04Z")
Whoa Black Bracky O Bama Lam Whoa Black Bracky O Bama Lam Black Bracky go to China O Bama Lam The damn right gone wild O Bama Lam Oh what 'bout the Lam? O Bama Lam Don’t you give a damn? O Bama Lam ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/11 "2009-10-09T14:48:52Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > But now, he’s refusing to meet with the Dalai Lama. > WTF? Did Pierre Trudeau ever meet with the Dalai Lama? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/12 "2009-10-09T15:27:39Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Did Pierre Trudeau ever meet with the Dalai Lama? No, the Dalai Lama doesn’t read the comics. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/13 "2009-10-09T15:52:07Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I believe it’s been established in other threads that Obama has not refused to meet the Dalai Lama, just that he is not going to do so before he goes to China. > > So, er, your premise appears to be false. Since when did a false premise, faulty logic, lack of analysis, and a paucity of facts ever get in the way of horseshit like this OP? **elbows** , did you even know who the Dalai Lama was before you decided to repeat this drivel? Do you give a shit for the people of Tibet, or is this simply reason #5,693 to bash Obama? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/14 "2009-10-09T16:02:15Z")
Strangely, we have yet to hear back from \*\*Elbows \*\*re: the misconception inherent in this thread and the sure-to-come-soon apology from the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Happy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Mr\_Happy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Happy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/15 "2009-10-09T16:07:25Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Whoa Black Bracky > O Bama Lam > Whoa Black Bracky > O Bama Lam > > Black Bracky go to China > O Bama Lam > The damn right gone wild > O Bama Lam > Oh what 'bout the Lam? > O Bama Lam > Don’t you give a damn? > O Bama Lam Aussie boy here. Respect. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/16 "2009-10-09T16:09:35Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Since when did a false premise, faulty logic, lack of analysis, and a paucity of facts ever get in the way of horseshit like this OP? Hey, I’m a cartoon horse living in a cartoon world, what can I say? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/17 "2009-10-09T16:36:12Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Hey, I’m a cartoon horse living in a cartoon world Aren’t we all? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/18 "2009-10-09T17:03:44Z")
Ooooooo Bama, where the monks wait second to complain. Where the Chinks\* come first What makes it worse Elbows jumped the gun with his Pit thread of distaaaaiiiiiiiin. \*Sorry Chinese people, it’s the only word that scanned correctly. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/19 "2009-10-09T17:07:57Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Whoa Black Bracky > O Bama Lam > Whoa Black Bracky > O Bama Lam > > Black Bracky go to China > O Bama Lam > The damn right gone wild > O Bama Lam > Oh what 'bout the Lam? > O Bama Lam > Don’t you give a damn? > O Bama Lam Non-Aussie here. Spit take. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184/20 "2009-10-09T17:12:23Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Ooooooo Bama, where the monks wait second to complain. > Where the Chinks\* come first > What makes it worse > Elbows jumped the gun with his Pit thread of distaaaaiiiiiiiin. > > \*Sorry Chinese people, it’s the only word that scanned correctly. I don’t think you needed to do that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-bama-has-disappointed-me/513184.md?page=2)