# O. J. Trial forgotten **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 15, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587 "2013-07-15T20:01:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/21 "2013-07-16T20:38:01Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I know in New Jersey, and I think in most states, if the police are called into a domestic dispute situation and they see any evidence to violence, they have to arrest the violent offender and get them out of the property. Sounds like one of the relatively recent laws that were passed to prevent cops from arresting people in domestic disputes according to their prejudices. I recall how the feminists pushed for those laws, and then got all outraged that the result was many more _women_ being arrested because it was the female perpetrators the cops had been ignoring. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/22 "2013-07-16T22:02:24Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > In other words I didn’t say anything stupid, you know it, but you aren’t willing to admit it. You just threw out that accusation as a random baseless insult and are now stuck with the fact that you can’t point out my “stupidity” because it isn’t there. Everything you wrote was so totally incorrect on every level. I would laugh if I thought you were joking. But you are obviously not. So call it stupidity. Or call it willful ignorance. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/23 "2013-07-18T15:03:21Z")
The most annoying thing about the reaction to the trial is the idea that instead of a finding on the evidence of the case that the trial shows us how society as a whole feels about certain groups of people. The Zimmerman verdict does not mean that any hispanic can shoot any young black man. The OJ trial did not mean that it was open season on blond white women and waiters. The Blake verdict does not mean that society thinks its okay to kill your wife and the Casey Anthony verdict does not mean that society thinks young girls are disposable. Anyone familiar with the facts of the case and the law can see that the jury came to the correct conclusion under the law. Nothing less and nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/24 "2013-07-18T17:17:58Z")
> [@Iamnotivan](#): > > Thanks. Mostly cliche & boilerplate answers I anticipated: apples and oranges, one case proves nothing at all, so what’s your point, blah, blah, blah. > #1 Black or white most of us would have been convicted on GZ’s situation as most of us could not raise the vast amounts of money to hire such fine legal teams. > #2 OJ got off. So did Geo. Z. Make all the excuses you want, but you cannot avoid the facts. Reach your own conclusions. I’m not making excuses when I say I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say here. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/25 "2013-07-19T14:05:25Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > The OJ trial did not mean that it was open season on blond white women and waiters. Damn. I may have to rethink that trophy room. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/26 "2013-07-19T14:29:21Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Everything you wrote was so totally incorrect on every level. Prove it. If I’m so utterly wrong you ought to be able to do that, instead of throwing out baseless insults. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/27 "2013-07-19T15:10:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Prove it. If I’m so utterly wrong you ought to be able to do that, instead of throwing out baseless insults. It wasn’t baseless. And don’t move the goalposts. You made the assertions about the way things work. It’s up to you to prove them. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/28 "2013-07-19T15:39:26Z")
To me, the OJ Simpson trial showed what a hopeless mess the American Jury Trial has become. You start out with ignorant jurors, throw in a “dream team” of 8 lawyers, and a year long “trial” in which everything BUT the alleged guilt of the defendant is discussed, and yo have it. Judge Ito allowed the defense to pt the LAPD on trial, not OJ-in the midst of all that went on, OJ was largely forgotten ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/29 "2013-07-19T16:29:19Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Heck I don’t know who, it’s been years. But it was pointed out that unless the law forces them to do otherwise, the cops respond to domestic violence according to what category the people involved are, not according to who is guilty of what. > > Man & woman of the same race: Arrest the man. > > Interracial couple or homosexual male couple: Ignore the situation until it escalates to murder. > > Lesbian couple: Arrest the bigger woman. I think BS needs to be called on this without a cite. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/30 "2013-07-19T18:15:33Z")
According to [this](http://prezi.com/snwsx1eva2ji/interracial-dating/) in Canada interracial couples are more likely to be arrested for domestic violence. According to [this](http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ896555&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ896555)study in the city studied interracial couples were more likely to be arrested for domestic violence when the police were summoned. [This](http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdfplus/10.2105/AJPH.79.5.595)paper is almost thirty years old but it shows from 1976 to 1985 the murder rates in interracial couples were 7.7 times higher than average. Overall it seems that murders used to be more common in interracial couples but arrest rates are now comparable. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/31 "2013-07-19T20:54:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Prove it. If I’m so utterly wrong you ought to be able to do that, instead of throwing out baseless insults. Here you go. Because I had never heard anyone make the claims you did was curious whether there was anything to them. I did a quick google search and came up with the following. [http://jiv.sagepub.com/content/25/10/1785.short](http://jiv.sagepub.com/content/25/10/1785.short) > [@](#): > > Interracial couples were more likely to have a history of prior IPV (OR = 2.60), engage in mutual assault (OR = 2.36), and result in perpetrator arrest (OR = 1.71) than ethnic minority monoracial couples We can argue about the reasons for this, but it appears the claim that the police don’t make arrests in the case of inter-racial couples is false, unless you have evidence to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587/32 "2013-07-21T19:56:09Z")
In addition to his “Dream Team” of lawyers, O.J.'s fame helped toward his acquittal in other ways. The change of venue was crucial to jury selection. And don’t forget Marcia’s opening remarks for the prosecution “Of course nobody wants to convict this wonderful man” or some such. :smack: > [@InternetLegend](#): > > … proved the justice system isn’t prejudiced against African-Americans. You know, because if one African-American defendant could be acquitted, that proves that the American justice system is completely unbiased when it comes to race. Correct. I just skimmed the GZ threads and learned this, though the “proofs” there, for dramatic variety, started with a black who’d been wrongly convicted. :dubious: > [@Iamnotivan](#): > > Thanks. Mostly cliche & boilerplate answers I anticipated: apples and oranges, one case proves nothing at all, so what’s your point, blah, blah, blah. > #1 Black or white most of us would have been convicted on GZ’s situation as most of us could not raise the vast amounts of money to hire such fine legal teams. > #2 OJ got off. So did Geo. Z. Make all the excuses you want, but you cannot avoid the facts. Reach your own conclusions. Congratulations! I’m unable to deduce what point you’re trying to articulate, if any, but am pretty sure that whatever it is, it’s wrong. Constructing a post with such a property is an art form! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-j-trial-forgotten/663587.md?page=1)