# O.K. then, what about man and gorrillas? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 30, 2000, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316 "2000-08-30T08:32:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![darkcool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@darkcool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darkcool)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/1 "2000-08-30T08:32:44Z")
I read somewhere the Chinese had succesfully bred a man and a gorrilla? anyone else heard this? UL? ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/2 "2000-08-30T08:37:04Z")
With artificial insemination, on the bare edge of possibility. With a chimp, in the lab, I would say a definate maybe. But WHY? Thus, sounds like an UL. ---
**Author:** ![matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@matt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/3 "2000-08-30T14:33:02Z")
some people will do anything for a few Golds at the Olympics… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/4 "2000-08-30T14:42:56Z")
Let me tell you one thing: It takes a LOT of tequila to get a gorilla into the sack. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/5 "2000-08-30T14:44:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blessedwolf \* > \*\*Let me tell you one thing: It takes a LOT of tequila to get a gorilla into the sack. \*\* So it’s the _gorilla_, and not the human, who needs the tequila? Damn! I’ve been doing it all backwards… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/6 "2000-08-30T15:05:55Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Anthracite \* \*\* > [@](#): > > So it’s the _gorilla_, and not the human, who needs the tequila? Damn! I’ve been doing it all backwards… \*\* Well, if you saw me, you’d understand. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/7 "2000-08-30T15:42:12Z")
**Dr. Necessiter** (_David Warner_): As you know, my research has advanced to a point where I can put [your mistress’] mind into the body of a gorilla. **Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr** (_Steve Martin_): I couldn’t fuck a gorilla! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/8 "2000-08-30T15:50:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pldennison \* > \*\ ***Dr. Necessiter** (_David Warner_): As you know, my research has advanced to a point where I can put [your mistress’] mind into the body of a gorilla. > **Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr** (_Steve Martin_): I couldn’t fuck a gorilla! \*\* Holy S\*\*\*! I thought I was the only one who remembered that flick! BTW: I’m very impressed. You spelled the name properly! ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/9 "2000-08-30T15:55:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by darkcool \* > \*\*I read somewhere the Chinese had succesfully bred a man and a **gorrilla?** anyone else heard this? UL? \*\* Where did you read this? _The Weekly World News_? You got an email? You misspelled “gorilla,” BTW. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/10 "2000-08-30T16:29:26Z")
Guerillas have been interbreeding with regular people for ages. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/11 "2000-08-30T18:04:34Z")
I saw a really cheezy made-for-TV movie with this premise once, except it wasn’t a true hybrid, but a chimera. You take two separate zygotes, each with two parents, and mix them together before they begin to differentiate. Net result is that you get some cells in the resultant organism that’re pure gorilla, and some that are pure human (or whatever species you’re using). I don’t remember who it was in the movie that did the experiment, though… It may have been the Chinese. ---
**Author:** ![SqrlCub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SqrlCub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SqrlCub)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/12 "2000-08-30T18:06:24Z")
Yes, but could they make a two or three assed monkey… or even a five assed monkey? HUGS! Sqrl ---
**Author:** ![jcarbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d78d45/32.png) [@jcarbon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jcarbon)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/13 "2000-08-30T18:08:08Z")
What do you get when you breed a tiger with a parrot? ---
**Author:** ![hardhead365](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@hardhead365](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardhead365)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/14 "2000-08-30T18:24:27Z")
I don’t know, but when it talks I listen 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/15 "2000-08-30T18:37:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SqrlCub \* > \*\*Yes, but could they make a two or three assed monkey… or even a five assed monkey? > > HUGS! > Sqrl \*\* **Sqrl** , they would be fools indeed for tampering with God’s elegant, single-assed design. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/16 "2000-08-30T18:48:19Z")
**blessedwolf** : I’ll cop to looking up the spelling on the IMDB, but the quote was the very first thing I thought of when I read the OP. One of my _favorite_ movies. I _do_ recall a story in the _Plain Dealer_ (I’m sure it was a wire story) this year or last about a researcher who announced plans to create a human/chimp hybrid and patentin, in order to draw attention to what he felt was the unethical practice of patenting living things. I’ll be damned if I can find a cite for it, though. Anyone else want to give it a shot? ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/17 "2000-08-30T18:53:38Z")
**First Born** (1989 TV mini-series) \*Edward Forester is a genetic researcher, intent on breeding primate hybrids. But his experiments take a strange turn when he succeeds in breeding a human/gorilla hybrid. He hides the results of the experiment, adopting the child, and helps Gor to speak and blend into society. But Gor can’t help being what he is, and tragedy and revelations are the ultimate result. \* Holy cow! I wrote the same damned story for my short-story fiction writing class the year before that! Right down to the chimaera! I wonder if someone pinched it? If the show was a piece of shit, it definitely could have been mine. I found this on a cached page at Google. The original link is busted. I’ve cleaned it up some. Similarity of genetic code Similarity of… to… Chimp\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_bonobo 99.3% Human\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_Chimp or bonobo 98.4% Gorilla\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_Human, chimp, or bonobo 97.7% Orang utan\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Gorilla, human, chimp, or bonobo 96.4% Gibbon or siamang \_\_Great apes 95% Old World monkeys \_\_apes 93% ======== Human and chimp hemoglobin are identical in all 287 units. So according to that scale, humans and Gorillas share almost 98% of their genetic material. That, I think, is closer than horses and donkeys. So I think it is definitely _possible_ that it can happen. In researching my little opus back in college I learned that Gorillas’heads are much larger than humans’ at birth, so the baby would have to be delivered by c-section. I’m assuming a human mother would carry the fetus; I wouldn’t want to try to take a newborn away from its 300 lb. mother. I too, read that the Chinese were planning on interbreeding humans and gorillas. It was in approximately 1983, in the “Continuum” section of the Penthouse of Science, Omni Magazine. I would take that report, and my recollection, with a pound or two of salt. I haven’t found any articles implying the same on-line, but that doesn’t mean they’re not out there. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/18 "2000-08-30T19:11:03Z")
You know, I may just be a sick fuck, but I’d be willing to donate my sperm to impregnate a chimanzee. Just to see what it would be like. After all, when I have a son, I’m sure his back will be hairy anyway… ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/19 "2000-08-30T20:41:33Z")
Sofa K. is right about the Omni article and I also read it in a book somewhere ages ago. Who the hell knows what goes on behind closed doors? Like B. wolf, I’m sure there is some “sick” fuck giving tequila to a chimp somewhere. 'Course you’re not gonna hear about the results. In a recent (4or 5 months ago?) Outside article about one of those ‘primate women’ there was mention of an Orang ‘raping’ a woman. The world is a crazy place. I’d bet it has happened. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316/20 "2000-08-31T01:07:17Z")
According to Jared Diamond, (in his book “The Third Chimpanzee”, humans are so close genetically to the two species of chimps that we might as well be in the same genus. That’s right, it should be _Homo sapiens_, _Homo troglodytes_, and _Homo paniscus_. Well, I wouldn’t go that far, but Chimps are definately hominids. It wouldn’t shock me if hybridization was sometimes possible. A chimp or bonobo would be a better candidate than a gorilla, of course. But note that a chimp would have a better chance hybridizing with a human that it would with a gorilla. It’s usually stated that the chimp is man’s closest relative. But what people sometimes fail to realize is that a chimp’s closest relative is not the gorilla, but the human. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/o-k-then-what-about-man-and-gorrillas/31316.md?page=2)