# Oak's Bowl Pick'em

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 6, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126 "2010-12-06T07:27:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/41 "2010-12-19T16:44:40Z")

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I am actually in last place. I had 2 big pointers come in but lost a 22. That means my possible total points in the lowest. My potential is at the bottom.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/42 "2010-12-19T16:56:28Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> I am actually in last place. I had 2 big pointers come in but lost a 22. That means my possible total points in the lowest. My potential is at the bottom.

Not quite that bad **Gonzo**. **FifthYear** and **Oredigger** have less potential points than you.

I ( **RamblinWrecker** ) am technically in 9th place, but realistically in near the bottom of the heap with only 4 people below me in potential points. This after I foolishly changed by Northern Illinois pick at the 11th hour.

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**Author:** ![TheFifthYear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@TheFifthYear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheFifthYear)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/43 "2010-12-19T17:02:30Z")

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Yeah, I did really well putting 30 points on Fresno and only 1 and 3 respectively on BYU and Troy. Good decision making, jerk.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/44 "2010-12-19T17:10:23Z")

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I only had a total of 10 points on the line–a 6, a 3, and a 1. Two came in for my current 7 points. All in all I’m still okay with a possible of 627.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/45 "2010-12-19T17:22:08Z")

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Whole lot of football left to play. I wouldn’t start screaming about my idiocy or prescience until after New Year’s Day at least.

I tried to add another pick set to Oak’s pool, utilizing Football Outsiders’ FEI college efficiency metric. The pool wouldn’t let me, but I made another generic entry utilizing that metric. The pick set can be found at Comment 2 in [this FO blog post](http://www.footballoutsiders.com/7th-day-adventure/2010/sda-2010-11-bowl-spectacular-part-i). While I don’t feel FEI is as good at predicting outcomes as DVOA, I was still curious to see how well FEI does in predicting winners.

I’ll post how well FEI is doing compared to the rest of the Dopers if anyone’s interested. Currently, it’s 3-0, with 57 points.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/46 "2010-12-19T18:49:02Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Not quite that bad **Gonzo**. **FifthYear** and **Oredigger** have less potential points than you.
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> I ( **RamblinWrecker** ) am technically in 9th place, but realistically in near the bottom of the heap with only 4 people below me in potential points. This after I foolishly changed by Northern Illinois pick at the 11th hour.

Don’t you hate it when that happens. How often do you change a pick to the right one at the last minute?  
I figured since Fresno played a pretty tough schedule at their level, that they would do well. They lost to some really good teams. They would not be shocked by playing against a good team. Wrong.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/47 "2010-12-19T19:34:17Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> Whole lot of football left to play. I wouldn’t start screaming about my idiocy or prescience until after New Year’s Day at least.

That is not much fun. I take great joy in heckling people about their picks. And laughing at my own moronic ideas.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/48 "2010-12-19T19:52:09Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Not quite that bad **Gonzo**. **FifthYear** and **Oredigger** have less

I can’t believe Fresno played that poorly and I was so overconfident in them that someone who went Ofor yesterday still has more potential points then me.

Gonzo are we going to get a countdown to the southern miss game as well?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/49 "2010-12-19T19:59:23Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I can’t believe Fresno played that poorly and I was so overconfident in them that someone who went Ofor yesterday still has more potential points then me.
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> Gonzo are we going to get a countdown to the southern miss game as well?

Do you need one? During the season several people did not get their picks in on time. So I give friendly reminders.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/50 "2010-12-19T20:02:04Z")

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I went 1 for 3 so far, losing my 6 point game with the Troy State win, and my 4 point game with Northern Illinois. Got BYU right, but only wagered 2 points on it.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/51 "2010-12-19T20:07:35Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I went 1 for 3 so far, losing my 6 point game with the Troy State win, and my 4 point game with Northern Illinois. Got BYU right, but only wagered 2 points on it.

How could you pick a team from Ohio against a team from Alabama? :smack:

The SEC should excommunicate you.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/52 "2010-12-19T20:48:16Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Do you need one? During the season several people did not get their picks in on time. So I give friendly reminders.

I was just giving you crap. I’m sure it helped people know out the pool keeping the thread on the front page.

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**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/53 "2010-12-19T21:08:12Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> How could you pick a team from Ohio against a team from Alabama? :smack:
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> The SEC should excommunicate you.

This was the decision-maker for me. With my 3 correct picks, I now have a whopping 12 points. I didn’t change the confidences much.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/54 "2010-12-19T21:19:37Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I was just giving you crap. I’m sure it helped people know out the pool keeping the thread on the front page.

Tru dat.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/55 "2010-12-19T22:57:00Z")

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On the other foot, I do have a 33 and a 21 in my win column. That is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/56 "2010-12-20T13:01:11Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> How could you pick a team from Ohio against a team from Alabama? :smack:
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> The SEC should excommunicate you.

Troy State is as much a part of the SEC as Ohio is of the Big 10

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/57 "2010-12-20T18:40:48Z")

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There are single bowl games Tues, Wed., Thursday, and Fri.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/58 "2010-12-22T01:02:53Z")

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Lsat chance to change your pick for the Beef ‘O’ Brady Bowl. My nominee for best bowl name of the year.

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**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/59 "2010-12-22T01:40:10Z")

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Say… did anybody make their picks solely on the odds? I mean, picking all of the favorites and setting the one with the biggest spread (OK over UConn) as 35 in confidence, etc?  
I’d like to know if there is kind of a benchmark that I could compare my picks to.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oaks-bowl-pickem/563126/60 "2010-12-22T01:57:55Z")

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What is a “Beef ‘o’ Brady” anyway?

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