# Obama absolutely beating the snot out of McCain in early voting

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 15, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100 "2008-10-15T22:09:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/81 "2008-10-22T20:30:03Z")

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Well, I’ve been purged, so to speak: I’m leaving for Baikonur tonight (to return a busted ass satellite back to the USA after the election), and my absentee ballot will not arrive till tomorrow (in spite of an overnighting a change of address last week).

Rats. ☹

Update on Rockingham county, NC. The country road seems to be popping up a lot more McCain/Palin road signs. So it’s indicative to me the race will close.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/82 "2008-10-22T20:57:32Z")

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Early voting began on Monday here. I went by today, around 2:30 pm, expecting I could breeze in and vote. The parking lot was full, there was a long line, and several people heading from their cars to join the line. There is a lot of junk on the Florida ballot, so I think it’s going to take each person more than five minutes to vote. I’ll try again early tomorrow morning and see if it’s any better.

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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/83 "2008-10-23T00:47:58Z")

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In 2004 I tried to vote early in arkansas, but the line was about 200 people and I gave up. So I went back on election day and everyone had already voted–took about 5 minutest to get in!

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We’ve sent our absentee ballots in to Nevada… 2 votes for Obama… and $60 in DHL fees since the post is is so unreliable.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/85 "2008-10-23T13:06:27Z")

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Just checking in to say that on the radio this morning they said that the latest AP poll has them at a dead heat- 44% for Obama, 43% for McCain.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/86 "2008-10-23T14:30:42Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> Just checking in to say that on the radio this morning they said that the latest AP poll has them at a dead heat- 44% for Obama, 43% for McCain.

That poll is among “likely voters”, which does not include all the newly registered voters, since that demographic has historically not shown up at the ballot box in good numbers. This year appears to be quite a different situation, unlike the youth voter registration drives for Gore and Kerry that did not produce votes.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/87 "2008-10-23T14:38:22Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> Just checking in to say that on the radio this morning they said that the latest AP poll has them at a dead heat- 44% for Obama, 43% for McCain.

How accurate can that be?..

1. It’s a national poll, so it has jack all to do with the actual election.

2. It was done directly after the debate and before all the Joe the Plumber nonsense blew up in McCain’s face.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/88 "2008-10-23T14:39:53Z")

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Well, here in La Porte County, Indiana, there have been 4000 votes cast in advance already. There’s a small line at almost all times at the La Porte courthouse and we’re digging up some good support for Senator Obama.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/89 "2008-10-23T14:46:12Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Well, here in La Porte County, Indiana, there have been 4000 votes cast in advance already. There’s a small line at almost all times at the La Porte courthouse and we’re digging up some good support for Senator Obama.

In terms of red and blue states, I think Obama has a very good chance at turning Indiana blue. Come on Hoosiers!!

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/90 "2008-10-23T14:55:36Z")

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> [@Phlosphr](#):
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> In terms of red and blue states, I think Obama has a very good chance at turning Indiana blue. Come on Hoosiers!!

Wanna come over for election weekend? We’ve got some pretty decent support from Chicago…

La Porte, Indiana is a Democratic city and we need to dredge out all the votes from this area that we can to counterbalance the rest of the ruddy state.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/91 "2008-10-23T15:22:50Z")

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I recently cleared election day off and I would love to come down from Chicago. I assume that contacting the campaign is the way to go here?

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/92 "2008-10-23T15:27:28Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Wanna come over for election weekend? We’ve got some pretty decent support from Chicago…
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> La Porte, Indiana is a Democratic city and we need to dredge out all the votes from this area that we can to counterbalance the rest of the ruddy state.

I certainly would if I were not in CT. My wife and I may go to PA but that’s only 4 hours away.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/93 "2008-10-23T20:51:03Z")

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I remember saying to myself 8 years ago 'There’s no way the people in this country would vote for a moron like that… Gore’s a shoe-in". Then, 4 years later I was thinking ‘By now they must realize what a dumbass they put in - he’s gone for sure’…

Now I have learned my lesson and I’m not holding my breath this time. Or maybe I am.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/94 "2008-10-23T21:00:13Z")

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I went and voted today (so that I’m free all day on Election Day to volunteer)!

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/95 "2008-10-23T21:17:48Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> Just checking in to say that on the radio this morning they said that the latest AP poll has them at a dead heat- 44% for Obama, 43% for McCain.

It’s an [extreme outlier](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html). Obama’s average lead in national tracking polls is over 7 points.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/96 "2008-10-23T21:38:07Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> Just checking in to say that on the radio this morning they said that the latest AP poll has them at a dead heat- 44% for Obama, 43% for McCain.

I believe the AP poll is also just representative of the popular vote.  
You can’t win by getting the majority of the popular vote, you have to win states (i.e. electoral votes).  
Something like [this](http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard) show a more realistic standing.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/97 "2008-10-23T22:03:13Z")

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> [@stolichnaya](#):
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> I recently cleared election day off and I would love to come down from Chicago. I assume that contacting the campaign is the way to go here?

Hi, I’m an hour and a half from Chicago. Come here! Come here!

**Phlosphr** : Where’s your wife’s sense of adventure?!?!

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**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/98 "2008-10-23T22:56:50Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> [In polls of 5 states with early voting](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/obama-dominating-among-early-voters-in.html), Barack Obama is walloping John McCain to the tune of an average lead of 23 points. In every one of the 5 states surveyed, Obama is massively out performing his statewide polls. He is at +34 in both Indiana and North Carolina. This is an asskicking, my friends. This is going to be an even bigger landslide than we thought.

I see your poll and raise you this one:

[http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309635713550536](http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309635713550536)

> [@](#):
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> In 2004, TIPP, a Division of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, came within 3/10 of 1% point of President Bush’s actual margin of victory, thus winning the title of “Nation’s Most Accurate Pollster.” We’'re planning to do it again this time around, so why not come along for the ride!

> **[America's Most Accurate Pollster | TIPP Online](https://www.tipponline.com/)**
>
> America's Most Accurate Pollster

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/99 "2008-10-23T23:05:08Z")

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> [@ManiacMan](#):
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> I see your poll and raise you this one:

Not to piggyback on Nate Silver, but I question IBD’s projection that McCain leads Obama among young voters by more than three to one.

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**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-absolutely-beating-the-snot-out-of-mccain-in-early-voting/468100/100 "2008-10-23T23:11:09Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Not to piggyback on Nate Silver, but I question IBD’s projection that McCain leads Obama among young voters by more than three to one.

“Age 18-24 has much fluctuation due to small sample size”

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