Many of the crowd that thinks “Regulations are EVIL” appears to also think that the other side is a mirror image of them and just wants to pass regulations for the sake of regulations. And tends to be the same people who think that the left wants to raise taxes for the sake of raising taxes and wants bigger government for the sake of it being bigger. The idea of someone who has a utilitarian idea toward such things, who supports or opposes regulations, taxes and government according to concerns over what they will or will not accomplish is alien to people who oppose them on principle.
Gonzo will forever live in my mind as the guy who called something “faggy” and then spent pages and pages defending its use as non-bigoted.
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Gonzomax, oil seeps naturally from the gulf floor. The presence of oil on the surface near the Deepwater rig does not guarantee that it comes from the Deepwater rig.
Surely even the most necessary regulations are “bad for business” in some sense. Regulations that prevent factories from hiring children to work 18 hours a day was bad for the businesses that did on that. I guess those regulations should be scrapped?
It takes a special kind of stupid to toss yourself on a grenade of an OP and shift the focus onto your own mental retardation. Emac owes you some thanks, Gonzerama.
There should be rules against threads like this.
But Obama would just repeal them. 
It is not what is occurring now. That is why it is being noticed. That is why there is some alarm.
When come back, bring cite.
There are numerous problems with your statements.
- BP was the operator of the Macondo (Gulf of Mexico) leak. Shell is the operator of the Gannet (North Sea) leak. You are mistakenly saying Exxon.
- Macondo is not leaking again. There were some erroneous media reports of an oil sheen in the area, but it was investigated by the Coast Guard and determined to not be a leak. Cite
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Coast Guard officials also checked with companies representing other wells and pipelines in the region and found nothing, said Capt. Jonathan Burton, commanding officer of the Coast Guard Marine Safety Unit in Morgan City.
“No sheen was sighted Thursday in virtually perfect conditions,” he said.
The video inspection of the wells also was viewed live by representatives of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration; Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement; and Louisiana and Mississippi oil spill coordinators, who also agreed no leaks were viewed, the release said.
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- BP is not “wiggling free of the costs”. Ignoring the costs associated with stopping the leak, BP has paid out $6.8 billion in claims and government payments as well as $8.6 billion into the oil spill trust fund.
Feel free to say something else wrong in response as you usually do.
Yes; “good for business” isn’t even close to the only important consideration here. If child labor laws, safety regulations and such are bad for business, then too bad, businesses can just suck it up. They’ve no right to enslave, mutilate and kill people for a few extra percentage points of profit.
I used to believe that, then I met Gonzomax, Elucidator, Der Trihs…
The problem as I see is it two fold: there simply aren’t enough people willing to re-examine old regulations; and even when done there are always enough cry babies to prevent its repeal.
As a perfect example:
Distilling For Personal Use.
A lot of circular reasoning that seems to begin and end with “OMG everyone will get poisoned!!!111one”
Now, imagine if I had posted this instead
GOP to Target Regulations in Fall Push to Spur Hiring
It’s essentially the same article but from a GOP perspective.
What you describe as a “lunatic fringe” now seems to be the majority of American voters, and as a result that is represented by their politicians, and subsequently their new regulations (and inability to throw out old ones). There is no application of logic to these regulations, what is used to ban marijuana fails to apply to cigarettes or alcohol. But the left has such a fear of deregulation, and the right has such a fear of letting people do things that are icky, we’re left with the worst of both worlds.
That’s pretty much the point. For each of those “stupid” regulations it’s too easy to find someone terrified by what life might be like without them. In other words, there are a lot of people made out of straw. You wouldn’t believe how hard people in my home town fought to KEEP a ban on Sunday shopping. They had a vote and 55% wanted to keep the ban, except for the few weeks leading up to Christmas.
But that might not actually be the case. Preventing children from working until 16 meant that the potential labour pool was better educated. It might have sucked in the immediate short term, but in the long run it allowed for a better quality of workforce, which is ultimately better for business. So it seems universally accepted that we don’t want kids working in factories, but we’re happy to allow it in the film industry. Music industry. Advertising. I had a paper route at 13, started teaching piano lessons at 15. It’s also a situation ripe for slippery slopes; what age is too young?
And while we’re talking about age, what’s the correct age to consume alcohol? 5, 12, 18, 21, 25?
18 hour work days are rarely productive, so even without regulations it’s unlikely a manager wants staff working 18 hours. Unless it’s a doctor, lawyer, military personnel, or firefighter…
I’m quite confident that we could have a GD about any of those 500 and we’d get more than a “lunatic fringe” terrified about what businesses might do without government over site.
It might be true that: “I don’t think there is a person alive (conservative, liberal or otherwise) who doesn’t think some regulations can be scraped.”
Except that for each regulation we can find a significant number or whiny little bitches desperate to cling to the past. And what happens in 4 years when we realize one of those 500 regulations was actually keeping the monsters our of our dimension?
We send you back.
I think we need some regulation against strawmen.
Since this is a rather silly pit thread, I won’t feel bad about asking: what exactly is an emacknight? Someone who’s skilled at the infamous chording text editor? A stubborn user of the (now discontinued) educational-market successor to the CRT iMac?
He’s a crusader for a federal regulatory agency, of course.
What?
To me, he will always be the guy who’s spent 20 years (or whatever) paying off a mortgage and has no clue how mortgage interest works. Or interest in general, it seems.
Stratocaster and others valiantly attempt to fight his ignorance, to little avail.
Interest is a scam!!! I have been paying off my $200k house for five years! How can I still owe $190k??!!!
That’s it emac, get The Gonz off that grenade o’ stupid. It’s your grenade, own it!
Does this mean I’m still in the running at least?
ZeroHedge Will do. this would indicate you are wrong. Feel free to snark after someone expains it to you.