# Obama and Trump meet in White House

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 10, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369 "2016-11-10T16:50:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/21 "2016-11-10T20:30:08Z")

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Frankly I’m more interested in the meeting between Michelle and Melania went. She looks like the least enthusiastic First Lady since Bess Truman.

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/22 "2016-11-10T20:30:53Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Probably terrifying to him, too. That’s what, 10-15 minutes he’ll have to pay attention to something?

Plus there’s all those boring _names_ he’ll have to remember, like “Africa”.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/23 "2016-11-10T20:31:09Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> The fact that he chose Mike Pence as his running mate shows he very clearly does.

Yes, Trump should have chosen one of the many progressive centrist types who were lining up for the VP slot.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/24 "2016-11-10T20:44:54Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Actually Trump has never had a problem with the gay, etc community and I can’t see him suddenly changing that as President.

He doesn’t give a shit about gay people one way or another. If he needs to throw them to the wolves, he’ll have no problem doing that. I suspect he’d be just as happy throwing rightwing Christians to the wolves, too, and that’s about the best hope I can have for his presidency: just as he refuses to pay his contractors, maybe he’ll refuse to pay his voters.

Already, though, that doesn’t look like what’s happening. He’s fine passing out favors, and he’s passing them out to the worst kinds of people.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/25 "2016-11-10T20:48:13Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It doesn’t fucking matter if Trump doesn’t have a problem with the gay(and on this matter you believe him? Why?). Read the link I provided-The person HE PUT IN CHARGE OF DOMESTIC POLICY has a _major_ fucking problem with “the gay”, and has solid plans to deal with “the gay” and quite a few other groups that offend his right-wing Christian sensibilities.

I don’t disagree with your point, but I think you snipped the phrase “the gay”: the full phrase was “the gay etc. community”. It didn’t look like it was some sort of out-of-touch way of referring to homosexuality.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/26 "2016-11-10T23:45:11Z")

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Trump told the press afterward that he was surprised that they met for 90 minutes, as he expected it to only be 10 or 15 minutes. Right: because turning over the reigns of government is as simple as tossing someone the keys and showing him where the bathroom is. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![quimper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7c8e57/32.png) [@quimper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quimper)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/27 "2016-11-11T00:06:06Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Frankly I’m more interested in the meeting between Michelle and Melania went. She looks like the least enthusiastic First Lady since Bess Truman.
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> Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

That got me thinking: Isn’t she going to be the first foreign-born First Lady since… 😕??

Google autocomplete [London-born Louisa Adams, wife of sixth U.S. president John Quincy Adams, was the first.](http://time.com/4532793/louisa-adams-first-lady-melania-trump/)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/28 "2016-11-11T00:31:28Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> The fact that Trump will soon receive\* a classified intelligence briefing every day\* is terrifying.

But the cool part is that now we’ll all get to hear about it via 1:30 am tweets!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/29 "2016-11-11T00:53:14Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> But the cool part is that now we’ll all get to hear about it via 1:30 am tweets!

And if you miss them, the highlights will be on Putin’s Facebook page!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/30 "2016-11-11T15:14:56Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Trump told the press afterward that he was surprised that they met for 90 minutes, as he expected it to only be 10 or 15 minutes. Right: because turning over the reigns of government is as simple as tossing someone the keys and showing him where the bathroom is. :rolleyes:

It’s tiny by comparison, but a good example of the facility with which Trump lies. Not even with malicious intent, or for obvious gain, in this case— an attempt at flattery, I guess? Or seemingly for no reason at all, sometimes. His relationship with the truth is so tenuous that I wonder if he even knows what truth is.

One certainty over the next few years: outlets like _The Daily Show_ and John Oliver’s, when they want to show a montage of Trump (or one of his underlings) making two completely contradictory statements, won’t have to go digging very far into the clip archive.

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**Author:** ![Zuzu\_s\_Petals](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@Zuzu\_s\_Petals](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zuzu_s_Petals)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/31 "2016-11-11T15:38:31Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It’s tiny by comparison, but a good example of the facility with which Trump lies. Not even with malicious intent, or for obvious gain, in this case— an attempt at flattery, I guess? Or seemingly for no reason at all, sometimes. His relationship with the truth is so tenuous that I wonder if he even knows what truth is.
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> One certainty over the next few years: outlets like _The Daily Show_ and John Oliver’s, when they want to show a montage of Trump (or one of his underlings) making two completely contradictory statements, won’t have to go digging very far into the clip archive.

If Tony Schwartz (who ghostwrote The Art of the Deal for Trump) is to be believed - and I so no reason why he shouldn’t be - then no, Trump has no regard whatsoever for the truth. Worse, he has an amazing ability to believe his own lies.

This is very worth a read if you haven’t already seen it: [Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/32 "2016-11-11T16:08:56Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I don’t disagree with your point, but I think you snipped the phrase “the gay”: the full phrase was “the gay etc. community”. It didn’t look like it was some sort of out-of-touch way of referring to homosexuality.

My apologies for that error.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-and-trump-meet-in-white-house/771369/33 "2016-11-12T00:18:02Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Trump told the press afterward that he was surprised that they met for 90 minutes, as he expected it to only be 10 or 15 minutes. Right: because turning over the reigns of government is as simple as tossing someone the keys and showing him where the bathroom is. :rolleyes:

That’s not a fair paraphrase of what he said. He said: “This is a meeting that was going to last maybe 10 or 15 minutes, and we were just going to get to know each other, We had never met each other. I have great respect. The meeting lasted for almost an hour and a half, and it could have, as far as I’m concerned, gone on a lot longer.”

[Link.](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/us/politics/white-house-transition-obama-trump.html) That quote starts about 1:30 into the video on that page.

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