# Obama attempts to "modify" the BIG THREE entitlements, I will remove his 2012 sticker from my Jeep! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118 "2011-07-23T23:05:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/141 "2011-07-28T16:39:23Z")
What exactly would Bernie Sanders accomplish by running for President? Aside from a replay of Bush-Gore-Nader? Go ahead and work to elect Romney if you think he’d be better for the country than Obama. But don’t pretend that’s not what you’d be doing if you run as a left-wing third party candidate. Your problem isn’t that Obama isn’t left-wing enough. Your problem is that the Republicans have a majority in the House, and according to our Constitution, the House controls spending. If you want left-wing legislation, then elect a majority of left-wingers to the House. Except, that isn’t going to happen, and the reason you didn’t see left-wing legislation when the Democrats controlled the House is that most Democrats aren’t left-wing. Obama is not a left-wing politician. You know it. I know it. The American people know it. Pretending to be disappointed because Obama isn’t a left-wing politician is supremely disingenous. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/142 "2011-07-28T16:46:17Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > What exactly would Bernie Sanders accomplish by running for President? Once again: Sanders just floated the idea, for the Democrats, which he is not. **He is not offering to run.** Not as a Democrat, not as a Socialist, not as a NPA candidate. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/143 "2011-07-28T17:02:19Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > What exactly would Bernie Sanders accomplish by running for President? … Well, he could provide an object lesson on the actual difference between a real, live, card carrying socialist and whatever it is that reasonable people would describe Obama as. > [@Lemur866](#): > > … Obama is not a left-wing politician. … The American people know it. … No, they don’t or I wouldn’t constantly see Obama described as ultra left-wing, Communist, Marxist, Nazi, etc, etc, etc. CMC fnord! YMMV, depending on what level of craziness you’re willing to expose yourself to. (There are places that make Free Republic look quite sane . . . as hard as that is to actually believe.) ---
**Author:** ![Jimson\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@Jimson\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimson_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/144 "2011-07-28T17:28:36Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No, it won’t. The Democrats are spineless and unwilling to stand up to the Republicans. The Republicans shout “Boo” and the Democrats cower in terror. This is what bothers me most about the Democratic Party. They have great talking points. Actual mass appeal on most issues and yet they seem genetically programmed to piss their pants and fall apart in the face of the usual baseless and in my opinion openly false ranting from the right. Christ can’t these people all go to a self esteem seminar or at least get common talking points. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/145 "2011-07-28T18:29:43Z")
The Democratic party is not a left wing party. The reason they “cave” to the Republicans is that lots of Democrats vote for the same things as Republicans. It ain’t like Democrats are all aching to raise taxes through the roof and start handing out welfare to gay pandas and ban guns. The reason the Democrats didn’t do these things when they controlled the House is because most Democrats didn’t want to do those things. I know the right-wing media industrial complex yammers incessently about the socialists in Congress, but that doesn’t make it true. If you want a left-wing party in Congress you better start electing one, because the Democratic party isn’t it. There was a time in the 70s, after the southern conservatives had abandoned the Democrats for the Republicans, that the Democratic caucus was overwhelmingly liberal. That was a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Cyclone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@Cyclone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyclone)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/146 "2011-07-28T19:14:20Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > The Democratic party is not a left wing party. The reason they “cave” to the Republicans is that lots of Democrats vote for the same things as Republicans. It ain’t like Democrats are all aching to raise taxes through the roof and start handing out welfare to gay pandas and ban guns. The reason the Democrats didn’t do these things when they controlled the House is because most Democrats didn’t want to do those things. > > I know the right-wing media industrial complex yammers incessently about the socialists in Congress, but that doesn’t make it true. If you want a left-wing party in Congress you better start electing one, because the Democratic party isn’t it. > > There was a time in the 70s, after the southern conservatives had abandoned the Democrats for the Republicans, that the Democratic caucus was overwhelmingly liberal. That was a long time ago. If the Democratic Party is not the party of the American left who is? Please do not insult me by naming some off-the-wall group that got less than 1% in the last election. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/147 "2011-07-28T20:35:33Z")
> [@Cyclone](#): > > Hey, I don’t set DNC policy on how we identify our members. Funny though, no one else has even claimed DNC membership. Makes me wonder how seriously I can take posts in The Straight Dope. > > I realize you are paranoid. I have no idea what ‘Freep.’ This troll talk is too trite for words. Is this one of those message boards for people who have been banned everywhere else? Conspiracy I can deal with, but paranoia is an unproductive activity. I won’t put up with it. Are you talking about the DNC as in Democratic National Committee or just the Democratic party? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/148 "2011-07-28T20:39:11Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Fuck him. Fuck him up the ass with a hot poker. Bernie Sanders just proved that he doesn’t give a good goddamn fuck about the future of this nation. > > Our next president will likely have to fill TWO seats on the Supreme Court. > > We already got Bush v Gore. We now have Corporations are People. If a Republican gets the presidency and fills those 2 seats, anyone who’s alive right now will NEVER know the same America we know today. Never. Supreme Court appointments are for life. Life. Bad decisions can take _centuries_ to overturn. > > If we fuck with President Obama during the primaries? We’re all fucked. Truly, deeply fucked. Perhaps we need a good deep fucking to wake the fuck up. Perhaps a Chief Justice Cheney is exactly what we need. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/149 "2011-07-28T21:11:06Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Your problem isn’t that Obama isn’t left-wing enough. Your problem is that the Republicans have a majority in the House, and according to our Constitution, the House controls spending. If you want left-wing legislation, then elect a majority of left-wingers to the House. Except, that isn’t going to happen, and the reason you didn’t see left-wing legislation when the Democrats controlled the House is that most Democrats aren’t left-wing. > > Obama is not a left-wing politician. You know it. I know it. The American people know it. Pretending to be disappointed because Obama isn’t a left-wing politician is supremely disingenous. They didn’t always have the House, Obama has been a pussy his entire term. Obama didn’t campaign as a socialist but he didn’t campaign as a Republican either. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/150 "2011-07-28T21:41:16Z")
> [@Cyclone](#): > > If the Democratic Party is not the party of the American left who is? Please do not insult me by naming some off-the-wall group that got less than 1% in the last election. There is no party of the American left. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Bosstrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstrain)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/151 "2011-07-29T00:12:00Z")
I’m a republican that voted for Barack, thinking that just maybe he would do something great. Sadly no, he didn’t. However, if instead of every President that gets in office getting bashed by everyone and their toddlers, we all form a line behind the Chief and actually assist (or at least not bash), then maybe we’d get somewhere. As soon as the poor guy steps in the door, it seems like everyone just wants to pick up stones and take aim, like it’s his fault for everything thats gone wrong, and any mistakes the previous one made are now piled on. It seemed like the day after he got ellected, everybody expected to walk outside and have the sky be purple, and a brand new BMW in the driveway. ☹ Plus, I remember Obama saying specifically that the ‘change’ wouldn’t necessarily happen during his term, and the road to ‘change’ would be rough and very bumpy. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/152 "2011-07-29T01:30:22Z")
> [@Cyclone](#): > > If the Democratic Party is not the party of the American left who is? Please do not insult me by naming some off-the-wall group that got less than 1% in the last election. There are left-wingers in the Democratic party, that doesn’t make the Democratic party a left-wing party. The left-wingers are a marginalized minority wing of a centrist party. There are tiny marginal wingnut left-wing parties, but neither major party is a left-wing party. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/153 "2011-07-29T01:56:33Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > RWs are wingnuts. LWs are moonbats. Aw shit. I forgot. Okay, moonbats. Thanks for the correction. > [@Frank](#): > > Traitor to what? Sanders is not a Democrat, never has been, and never has pretended to be. Traitor to the United States of America. And in particular, the United States of America that HE espouses. Any primary of President Obama _weakens_ his chances of winning the Presidency. And when the Supreme Court is on the line, especially if you’re a socialist like Sanders, you don’t even _think_ about fucking with that. That’s what. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > They didn’t always have the House, Obama has been a pussy his entire term. > > Obama didn’t campaign as a socialist but he didn’t campaign as a Republican either. No, he campaigned as the candidate who would take the Left/Right, Red/Blue blinders off and try to heal the damage such divisive behavior has caused this nation. He’s been saying that since two-thousand-fucking-FOUR! Where the hell _were_ you during the campaign? [**Democratic Convention**](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWynt87PaJ0) ~ July, 2004 [**Call to Renewal Keynote Address**](http://obamaspeeches.com/081-Call-to-Renewal-Keynote-Address-Obama-Speech.htm) ~ June 28, 2006 [**Judge Him By His Laws**](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html)~ _The Washington Post_ January 4, 2008 [**Republican Kurt Dillard in an ad for Obama for President**](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTtUbzYDzB0) ~ 2008 [**Get Over It: This Is Who Obama Is**](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/get-over-it-this-is-who-obama-is/242600/#.TjCkTFCUPsM.twitter)~ _The Atlantic_ July 27, 2011 Tell me, what kind of “pussy” gets over **500** pieces of legislation passed in just 2 years? Are you fucking serious? Do you know how many pieces of legislation Boehner has managed to have become law in the 7 months he’s been Speaker of the House? **TWELVE** Yeah, _twelve_ whole laws. So Obama’s a Republican, huh? Strange how that _doesn’t_ make any fucking sense. Oh yeah, I forgot, you didn’t get your public option. Guess what? If you held out for that, **we’d still be here listening to some hateful Republican Senator filibustering it, you dumbass**. OH, that’s _right_, he “caved” and extended the Bush tax cuts. I’m sure all the 99-week-unemployed who got their benefits extended wish he’d have held firm on that one, oh yes they do! You’re fucking ridiculous. > [@Bosstrain](#): > > I’m a republican that voted for Barack, thinking that just maybe he would do something great. Sadly no, he didn’t. However, if instead of every President that gets in office getting bashed by everyone and their toddlers, we all form a line behind the Chief and actually assist (or at least not bash), then maybe we’d get somewhere. As soon as the poor guy steps in the door, it seems like everyone just wants to pick up stones and take aim, like it’s his fault for everything thats gone wrong, and any mistakes the previous one made are now piled on. It seemed like the day after he got ellected, everybody expected to walk outside and have the sky be purple, and a brand new BMW in the driveway. ☹ Plus, I remember Obama saying specifically that the ‘change’ wouldn’t necessarily happen during his term, and the road to ‘change’ would be rough and very bumpy. A voice of reason. How refreshing. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/154 "2011-07-29T10:20:17Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Traitor to the United States of America. You’re nuts. Calling people traitors to the U.S. because they disagree with you politically? You should be ashamed of yourself. > [@](#): > > And in particular, the United States of America that HE espouses. Any primary of President Obama _weakens_ his chances of winning the Presidency. And when the Supreme Court is on the line, especially if you’re a socialist like Sanders, you don’t even _think_ about fucking with that. That’s what. You’re still nuts. You’re taking it as a given that Socialists, etc., should support Obama because he’s lefter than whatever dingbat the Republicans nominate. Why? He’s not a Socialist or an etc. Perhaps a period of reactionary government would be good for the cause in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/155 "2011-07-29T13:14:52Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > No, he campaigned as the candidate who would take the Left/Right, Red/Blue blinders off and try to heal the damage such divisive behavior has caused this nation. Well, there you are, that was his mistake. The American Right does not need to be accommodated to, it needs to be screamed at and bullied and humiliated and shamed and out-demonized and pounded and battered into jelly and finally, permanently marginalized. Haven’t we all learned that by now? We need a divider, not a uniter. This is **not** an age for healing divisions, this is an age for fighting the good fight to the finish. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/156 "2011-07-29T13:39:38Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well, there you are, that was his mistake. The American Right does not need to be accommodated to, it needs to be screamed at and bullied and humiliated and shamed and out-demonized and pounded and battered into jelly and finally, permanently marginalized. Haven’t we all learned that by now? We need a divider, not a uniter. This is **not** an age for healing divisions, this is an age for fighting the good fight to the finish. You may be right, I won’t dispute that. That doesn’t change the fact that that isn’t what he campaigned as, and anyone who expected him to _be_ that, and who are angry that he hasn’t been, had their expectations out-of-whack and absolutely no justification for their anger based on the realities. It’s misplaced. That anger needs to be directed at the party who has put their craven goal of destroying this president above the good of this nation. They need to be goddamn furious that Republicans are responsible for the watering-down of health care reform, because of their campaign of lies and their threat of filibuster. And they need to blame their own damn selves for allowing their [waah waah] disappointment to keep them home during the mid-terms, destroying what little power the president even _had_ to get things done. The _only_ way President Obama is _ever_ going to be able to fully institute some of the programs he campaigned on (single payer, for instance), is if he has not only the majority returned to Congress, but a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. This fucking temper tantrum crap not only isn’t helping, it’s _hurting_. **FOCUS, PEOPLE. F-O-C-U-S!** [**Re-Elect Democratic Senators & Congresspeople**](http://reelectdemocrats.blogspot.com/) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/157 "2011-07-29T16:23:27Z")
And pals and gals, brethren and sistren, its going to get a lot harder. Corporate money is going to flood over the landscape, with fake grassroots groups showing up everywhere. Americans for Sound Policy, Americans for Freedom and Goodness, Citizens United to Beat the Dutch… Add to that the full-court press to destroy even the remnant of the union movement, and the voter suppression drive. And finally, the apathy and hopelessness, the most loyal allies of the Forces of Darkness. Sharpen your swords, and griddle your loins, its going to get rough. Rougher. A lot. My name is Mr Sunshine, and I am appalled at this message… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/158 "2011-07-29T19:25:44Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > The _only_ way President Obama is _ever_ going to be able to fully institute some of the programs he campaigned on (single payer, for instance), is if he has not only the majority returned to Congress, but a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. The Democrats had a majority in the House and Senate. (Who cares about a filibuster threat? If they want to filibuster, make them do it.) What came out of it? Proof that Congressional Democrats are a bunch of fucking wimps without backbones. Shivering in their boots, “Oh Noes! If I vote for this, I might not get re-elected!” Then they get beat in the election anyway because, well, nobody wants a spineless toad representing them in Congress. Yet we’re supposed to continue to support this bunch of corrupt, syphillitic hyenas because a government led by the bunch of corrupt, syphillitic jackals across the aisle might be microscopically measurably worse? Fuck that. This group of cowardly, vacuous, and interminably useless jerkoffs has proved that they are incapable of standing up and fighting for what they claim to believe in. You go ahead and support them. I’m certain that they’re delighted to have support from someone who requires nothing from them, who demands nothing from them, who expects nothing of them, who only asks that they have a D after their names. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/159 "2011-07-29T20:03:58Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Traitor to the United States of America. And in particular, the United States of America that HE espouses. Any primary of President Obama _weakens_ his chances of winning the Presidency. And when the Supreme Court is on the line, especially if you’re a socialist like Sanders, you don’t even _think_ about fucking with that. That’s what. Well, like I said, perhaps we need a good deep fucking to wake the fuck up. Perhaps we need 4 years of President Bachmann with speaker Cantor and majority leader DeMint. Get this insanity out of our system so that we can return to a more rational center of gravity and we can go back to ignoring the the modern incarnation of the John Birch Society. And the last time I checked, challenging your president isn’t supposed to be considered treason, but it says a lot about you that you think it does. > [@](#): > > No, he campaigned as the candidate who would take the Left/Right, Red/Blue blinders off and try to heal the damage such divisive behavior has caused this nation. He’s been saying that since two-thousand-fucking-FOUR! Where the hell _were_ you during the campaign? I saw the 2004 speech and I supported him for President in 2008. I wanted to reach a middle ground back then but the Republican party hadn’t sprinted to the right yet. Obama has chased the Republican party to the right bent over, running backwards and with grease on his ass. > [@](#): > > Tell me, what kind of “pussy” gets over **500** pieces of legislation passed in just 2 years? The one we have in the white house. > [@](#): > > Are you fucking serious? Deadly. I am willing to see a supreme court full of Scalias and Thomases if that is what it takes for people to wake the fuck up. > [@](#): > > Do you know how many pieces of legislation Boehner has managed to have become law in the 7 months he’s been Speaker of the House? > > **TWELVE** > > Yeah, _twelve_ whole laws. Why do you think that passing highway bills and shit like that is any indication of leadership? > [@](#): > > So Obama’s a Republican, huh? Strange how that _doesn’t_ make any fucking sense. I said he might as well be a Republican. In trying to find a middle ground he is chasing the Tea party to the right. > [@](#): > > Oh yeah, I forgot, you didn’t get your public option. Guess what? If you held out for that, **we’d still be here listening to some hateful Republican Senator filibustering it, you dumbass**. I’d rather if he didn’t bring up health care at all until the economy was in better shape. WTF was so important about health care that he was willing to spend all his political capital for the worst version of health are reform I could have imagined. Oh yeah, I forgot, his legacy. > [@](#): > > OH, that’s _right_, he “caved” and extended the Bush tax cuts. I’m sure all the 99-week-unemployed who got their benefits extended wish he’d have held firm on that one, oh yes they do! Read that again. These people have been unemployed for 99 weeks. TWO FUCKING YEARS!!! Why shouldn’t they go apply for welfare? Why should we continue to give the wealthy a free ride so that folks who couldn’t find a job in two fucking years can continue to collect government benefits and call it unemployment instead of welfare? > [@](#): > > You’re fucking ridiculous. You have drunk too much Obama cool aid. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/160 "2011-07-29T20:06:27Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And pals and gals, brethren and sistren, its going to get a lot harder. Corporate money is going to flood over the landscape, with fake grassroots groups showing up everywhere. Americans for Sound Policy, Americans for Freedom and Goodness, Citizens United to Beat the Dutch… > > Add to that the full-court press to destroy even the remnant of the union movement, and the voter suppression drive. > > And finally, the apathy and hopelessness, the most loyal allies of the Forces of Darkness. Sharpen your swords, and griddle your loins, its going to get rough. Rougher. A lot. > > My name is Mr Sunshine, and I am appalled at this message… Still and all, [both numbers and time are on **our** side.](http://people-press.org/2011/05/04/beyond-red-vs-blue-the-political-typology/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118.md?page=9)