# Obama attempts to "modify" the BIG THREE entitlements, I will remove his 2012 sticker from my Jeep!

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**Created:** [July 23, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118 "2011-07-23T23:05:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/161 "2011-07-29T20:11:26Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> You may be right, I won’t dispute that. That doesn’t change the fact that that isn’t what he campaigned as, and anyone who expected him to _be_ that, and who are angry that he hasn’t been, had their expectations out-of-whack and absolutely no justification for their anger based on the realities. It’s misplaced.
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> That anger needs to be directed at the party who has put their craven goal of destroying this president above the good of this nation. They need to be goddamn furious that Republicans are responsible for the watering-down of health care reform, because of their campaign of lies and their threat of filibuster. And they need to blame their own damn selves for allowing their [waah waah] disappointment to keep them home during the mid-terms, destroying what little power the president even _had_ to get things done.
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> The _only_ way President Obama is _ever_ going to be able to fully institute some of the programs he campaigned on (single payer, for instance), is if he has not only the majority returned to Congress, but a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. This fucking temper tantrum crap not only isn’t helping, it’s _hurting_.
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> **FOCUS, PEOPLE. F-O-C-U-S!**
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> [**Re-Elect Democratic Senators & Congresspeople**](http://reelectdemocrats.blogspot.com/)

What!?!?! You don’t think we criticize the Republicans? Of course we do. We are also criticizing their accomplice in the White House.

Perhaps he is the best we can do and I don’t actually want to live in a country (or world) where Michele Bachmann is POTUS. The only contribution I’ve made this year is the the Colbert SuperPAC.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/162 "2011-07-29T21:05:40Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Well, like I said, perhaps we need a good deep fucking to wake the fuck up. Perhaps we need 4 years of President Bachmann with speaker Cantor and majority leader DeMint. Get this insanity out of our system so that we can return to a more rational center of gravity and we can go back to ignoring the the modern incarnation of the John Birch Society.

We **HAD** a good deep fucking with **BUSH**. We tried to return the country to a more rational center of gravity, but **over-expectant assholes like you** fucked us even **harder** in 2010 by destroying the gains we’d made and allowing the Tea Party fuckers to steamroll their way into Congress.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I saw the 2004 speech and I supported him for President in 2008. I wanted to reach a middle ground back then but the Republican party hadn’t sprinted to the right yet. Obama has chased the Republican party to the right bent over, running backwards and with grease on his ass.

That is complete, utter **BULLSHIT**.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Deadly. I am willing to see a supreme court full of Scalias and Thomases if that is what it takes for people to wake the fuck up.

Then you, too, are a traitor to this country if you would rather see it fucked into oblivion for the sake of your misplaced outrage at **something that never existed**.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Why do you think that passing highway bills and shit like that is any indication of leadership?

Yep. Proves to me that you can’t possibly have paid any goddamn bit of attention in 2008 and you haven’t paid any attention for the past 2 1/2 years if you think Obama, Pelosi & Reid’s accomplishments have been nothing more than naming post offices.

1. January 29, 2009: Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
2. February 4, 2009: Children’s Health Insurance Reauthorization Act
3. February 17, 2009: American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
4. March 30, 2009: Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009
5. April 21, 2009: Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
6. May 20, 2009: Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act
7. May 20, 2009: Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009
8. May 22, 2009: Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act of 2009
9. May 22, 2009: Weapon Systems Acquisition Reform Act of 2009
10. June 22, 2009: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
11. June 30, 2009: Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2009
12. August 6, 2009: Cash For Clunkers Extension Act
13. October 15, 2009: Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act of 2009
14. October 19, 2009: Foreign Evidence Request Efficiency Act of 2009
15. October 22, 2009: Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
16. October 28, 2009: Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act
17. October 30, 2009: Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act
18. November 6, 2009: Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009
19. November 11, 2009: Military Spouses Residency Relief Act
20. December 15, 2009: No Social Security Benefits for Prisoners Act of 2009
21. December 22, 2009: Human Rights Enforcement Act of 2009
22. January 27, 2010: Emergency Aid to American Survivors of Haiti Earthquake Act
23. February 16, 2010: Nuclear Forensics and Attribution Act
24. February 27, 2010: Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010
25. March 4, 2010: Travel Promotion Act
26. March 18, 2010: Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (HIRE Act)
27. March 18, 2010: Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2009 (Division B) Reestablished “pay-as-you-go”
28. March 23, 2010: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
29. March 30, 2010: Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010
30. March 31, 2010: Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act of 2009
31. April 7, 2010 Prevent Deceptive Census Look Alike Mailings Act
32. May 5, 2010: Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010
33. May 17, 2010: Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act
34. May 24, 2010: Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009
35. May 27, 2010: Federal Judiciary Administrative Improvements Act of 2010
36. June 9, 2010: Special Agent Samuel Hicks Families of Fallen Heroes Act
37. June 25, 2010: Preservation of Access to Care for Medicare Beneficiaries and Pension Relief Act of 2010
38. July 1, 2010: Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010
39. July 2, 2010: Homebuyer Assistance and Improvement Act of 2010
40. July 7, 2010: Formaldehyde Standards for Composite Wood Products Act
41. July 21, 2010: Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act
42. July 22, 2010: Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery Act of 2010
43. July 27, 2010: Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act of 2010
44. August 3, 2010: Fair Sentencing Act of 2010
45. August 10, 2010: SPEECH Act of 2010
46. August 10, 2010: Cell Phone Contraband Act of 2010
47. August 11, 2010: United States Manufacturing Enhancement Act of 2010
48. September 27, 2010: Mandatory Price Reporting Act of 2010
49. September 27, 2010: Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010
50. September 30, 2010: First Responder Anti-Terrorism Training Resources Act
51. September 30, 2010: Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2010
52. October 7, 2010: Reducing Over-Classification Act
53. October 7, 2010: Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of 2010
54. October 8, 2010: Stem Cell Therapeutic and Research Reauthorization Act of 2010
55. October 7, 2010: Security Cooperation Act of 2010
56. October 12, 2010: Redundancy Elimination and Enhanced Performance for Preparedness Grants Act
57. October 12, 2010: Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act Improvements Act of 2010
58. October 12, 2010: Secure and Responsible Drug Disposal Act of 2010
59. October 13, 2010: Plain Writing Act of 2010
60. October 13, 2010: Veterans’ Benefits Act of 2010
61. October 15, 2010: United States Secret Service Uniformed Division Modernization Act of 2010
62. October 30, 2010: International Adoption Simplification Act
63. December 9, 2010: Telework Enhancement Act of 2010
64. December 9, 2010: Animal Crush Video Prohibition Act of 2010
65. December 13, 2010: Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010
66. December 14, 2010: Asian Carp Prevention and Control Act
67. December 15, 2010: CALM Act\*
68. December 17, 2010: Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010
69. December 18, 2010: Truth in Fur Labeling Act of 2010
70. December 18, 2010: Social Security Number Protection Act of 2010
71. December 20, 2010: CAPTA Reauthorization Act of 2010
72. December 22, 2010: Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Repeal Act of 2010
73. December 22, 2010: Regulated Investment Company Modernization Act of 2010
74. December 22, 2010: Truth in Caller ID Act of 2009
75. December 22, 2010: FOR VETS Act of 2010
76. December 22, 2010: Preserving Foreign Criminal Assets for Forfeiture Act of 2010
77. December 29, 2010: Omnibus Trade Act of 2010
78. December 29, 2010 Helping Heroes Keep Their Homes Act of 2010
79. January 4, 2011: Predisaster Hazard Mitigation Act of 2010
80. January 4, 2011: GPRA Modernization Act of 2010
81. January 4, 2011: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
82. January 4, 2011: America COMPETES Reauthorization Act of 2010
83. January 4, 2011: Diesel Emissions Reduction Act of 2010
84. January 4, 2011: Supportive Housing for the Elderly Act of 2010
85. January 4, 2011 :Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2010
86. January 4, 2011: Frank Melville Supportive Housing Investment Act of 2010
87. January 4, 2011: Anti-Border Corruption Act of 2010
88. January 4, 2011: Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Improvements Act of 2010
89. January 4, 2011: Reduction of Lead in Drinking Water Act
90. September 29, 2010: Treaty with the United Kingdom Concerning Defense Trade Cooperation
91. September 29, 2010: Treaty with Australia Concerning Defense Trade Cooperation
92. September 29, 2010: Hague Convention on International Recovery of Child Support and Family Maintenance
93. December 22, 2010: New START
94. February 23, 2011: Obama declared the Defense of Marriage act unconstitutional and will no longer be defending the cases in the 1st and 2nd circuits.

And we’re supposed to accept _your_ interpretation of how Obama has governed, when you don’t even know what the hell he’s actually gotten _done_? Fuck that.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I said he might as well be a Republican. In trying to find a middle ground he is chasing the Tea party to the right.

You’re fucking deluded.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I’d rather if he didn’t bring up health care at all until the economy was in better shape. WTF was so important about health care that he was willing to spend all his political capital for the worst version of health are reform I could have imagined. Oh yeah, I forgot, his legacy.

Just because you’re so goddamn self-centered that you’d destroy this country because you’re butthurt, doesn’t mean President Obama is as arrogant as you. The cost of health care in this country is a huge contributor to the miserable shape of our economy. He was _trying_ to address that. But since nothing is good enough for your sorry, selfish ass, he was bound to fail no matter what he did.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Read that again. These people have been unemployed for 99 weeks. TWO FUCKING YEARS!!! Why shouldn’t they go apply for welfare? Why should we continue to give the wealthy a free ride so that folks who couldn’t find a job in two fucking years can continue to collect government benefits and call it unemployment instead of welfare?

Why the hell does it matter what they **CALL** it? And I’m supposed to believe you’re a Liberal or a Democrat with the lack of understanding or compassion you display. You sicken me. YOU may as well be a Republican.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> You have drunk too much Obama cool aid.

Riiiiiiiiight. Because I support him in spite of not agreeing with everything he’s done, I’m a kool-aid drinker. Get Fucking Real. Just because someone supports **ensuring we keep a Democratic president to protect the Supreme Court from swinging so far Right that we wouldn’t stand a chance in hell of recovering for at least 100 years** , doesn’t make them a kool-aid drinker.

Asshole.

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**Author:** ![Cyclone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@Cyclone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyclone)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/163 "2011-07-30T00:04:11Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> You were talking about Chicago **in the 1960s.** When the Daley Machine ran things. No good model for nuttin’.

No, I am talking about since year 2000 when former Clinton official, John Schmidt, came home to Illinois and reorganized the Mayors office. It was set up much like the Clinton White House. Unlike his father Richard J Daley, current Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley is the “brand name.” He is the face man for a brain trust that includes some of the finest Democratic minds in the nation. I would think most would be aware of this since Mayor Daley’s brother became the White House chief of staff.

Chicago style politics works because, again justice is quick and things get done on timely basis. A lesson learned in 1871 after the entire Chicago fire left the city in ashes. There was no time for discussion things needed to get done. Some of it was done Al Capone style. Chicago boldly advertises its pride in their efforts to solve problems, and even in Al Capone’s day, (he may as well have been mayor), they were not exterminating people because of booze profits.

By the way few know this, but Al Capone was a family man from the south-side of Chicago among other things. The family suffered with a deaf child that infuriated Big Al that with all his power, he could do nothing where it really mattered. Some have said that Al Capone’s lavish life at the Lexington Hotel was merely public image, and he spent his time at his south side home. I am inclined to believe he was an Italian, Catholic family person, and enjoyed his lavish lifestyle.

Say what you will about Chicago, the city works. Trash gets picked up on time, and snow is plowed when it comes down. No other city can boast that they run as efficiently as Chicago. Chicago cuts corners, gets things done, and runs our nation.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/164 "2011-07-30T00:11:01Z")

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> [@Cyclone](#):
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> … current Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley is the “brand name.”

How much attention _do_ you pay to politics? Rahm Emmanuel is the mayor of Chicago.

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**Author:** ![Cyclone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@Cyclone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyclone)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/165 "2011-07-30T00:16:56Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Yes, you’ll find the Dope community often gets emotionally involved in beating up the clueless idiot. You’ll find that **frequently,** if you stay around.

I like you. Your are angry, and post out of control. Guys like you remind me of being out on the campaign trail. We agree with you on every thing you want to hear to get your vote. Then after the election when you phone, your calls are not returned. You are either with the progressive program and follow the instructions of our elected leaders, or you quickly find yourself outside looking in.

I find your posts to be hot air and waving your fists at windmills. You are not the kind of guy Americans take seriously in politics. You made your bed, and you are ignored by the mainstream.

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**Author:** ![Cyclone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@Cyclone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyclone)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/166 "2011-07-30T00:22:45Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> :rolleyes: [There are degrees,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index) and the differences do matter a lot.
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> See? A corrupt government is **not** a good model for getting things done.

Degrees are for pussys. Whatever it takes to get the job done. In for a dime, in for a dollar. The real question is how fast can we separate the talkers for the doers?

When it comes to your own personal ethics. I would suggest playing it straight. When someone has to go under the bus, it is usually a guy like former Illinois Governor Rod R. Blagojevich who tried to sell president Obama’s Senate seat. Now that he has been used he will just disappear.

Just like Senator Charles Percy’s daughter mysteriously disappear. Poor Percy he began to think he was a Republican before he was a Chicagoan. This is hard-ball politics and not for philosophical bull shitters. If real politics is too tough for you I suggest you stay out of it. And, by the way Chicago is no different than most major cities. Check out the history of Los Angeles, especially in the 1930s-1950s. They did the same thing, but very quietly.

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**Author:** ![Cyclone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@Cyclone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyclone)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/167 "2011-07-30T00:30:58Z")

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I see my ‘bold’ button does not work. So, it must be time for me to leave. I am not going to play childish games with an adolescent moderator. I am an adult, I will design my posts as I SEE FIT. I think this group is best left to itself lost in the Twilight Zone. There is no real work being done here. But, thanks for the experience.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/168 "2011-07-30T00:48:20Z")

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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/169 "2011-07-30T03:43:52Z")

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> [@Cyclone](#):
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> You are either with the progressive program and follow the instructions of our elected leaders, or you quickly find yourself outside looking in.

So our elected leaders instructed you to start threads complaining about Obama and illegal immigrants? How does that serve the progressive program?

Not that anyone around here believes you’re a Democrat. Your posts are pretty clearly caricatures of what a conservative thinks a liberal might say.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/170 "2011-07-30T13:13:12Z")

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> [@Cyclone](#):
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> I see my ‘bold’ button does not work.

Do it by coding: [b] word [/ b] , but no spaces inside the brackets – **word.**

Italics: [i] word [/ i] – _word._

To embed links, [u r l = link (that is, url of the page you’re linking, can be copied from the navigation bar] word [/ u r l].

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/171 "2011-07-30T19:42:21Z")

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Yikes! Not sure why but I lost track of this thread. Now, days later, I return to see lots of responses to me.

I want to answer but this far down the road seems…I dunno…weird.

If anyone wants me to answer an earlier post let me know and I’ll be happy to.

Sorry about this…did not mean to do a drive-by in this thread.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attempts-to-modify-the-big-three-entitlements-i-will-remove-his-2012-sticker-from-my-jeep/590118/172 "2011-07-30T20:34:16Z")

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> [@Cyclone](#):
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> Say what you will about Chicago, the city works. Trash gets picked up on time, and snow is plowed when it comes down. No other city can boast that they run as efficiently as Chicago. Chicago cuts corners, gets things done, and runs our nation.

Really? There’s no other city in the world that works as well?

I’m sure you have some kind of objective evidence that backs that claim up, right?

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