# Obama be shuckin' 'n' jivin', dontchyaknow! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 25, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784 "2012-10-25T01:13:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/1 "2012-10-25T01:13:55Z")
Sarah Palin accused the president today of [shucking and jiving.](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/palin-accuses-obama-shuck-jive-schtick-212555554--politics.html) > [@Sarah Palin's Facebook](#): > > President Obama’s shuck and jive shtick with these Benghazi lies must end. What a fucking ignorant, hateful piece of shit. What’s next, Ann Coulter calling the president a retard twitter? [Oh right…](http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/living/ann-coulter-obama-tweet/index.html) That being said, are there any Palin fans/conservatives/Republicans/McCain-Palin voters that are able to defend this use of “shuck and jive?” ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/2 "2012-10-25T01:20:36Z")
They’re both trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/3 "2012-10-25T01:31:40Z")
I hate to interrupt this Pit thread with a simple request for information, but I’m not sure what ‘shucking’ or ‘jiving’ mean in this context and why the OP is offended. I’m guessing they maybe some racial reference or something but would like to learn more. Anybody want to educate me here so I can understand what sort of vile hateful shit Palin’s spewed this time? ETA - had a look at the link. Looks like I was right about the racial reference thing ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/4 "2012-10-25T01:43:31Z")
[Shuck and Jive](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shuck_and_jive) Up there with watermelon and fried chicken references for being blatantly racist pretty much without fail. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/5 "2012-10-25T01:49:31Z")
Boy, those dogwhistles are getting loud, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/6 "2012-10-25T01:50:23Z")
Who is this Palin person you speak of? The name’s familiar… seems like I should know who it is. Was she recently in the news or something? Didn’t she used to be _someone_? Someone _relevant_? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/7 "2012-10-25T01:53:34Z")
I mean, is she that ignorant? Or just that eager to draw attention to herself by being willfully offensive? Or is this some pandering dog whistle to the good ol’ white boys of the GOP who still hyuk-hyuk-hyuk phrases like that when talking about them uppity fucking colored boys? ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/8 "2012-10-25T02:07:42Z")
OK, which of our resident Republican apologists drew the short straw and is going to have to defend this one? ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/9 "2012-10-25T02:15:10Z")
trolls gotta troll, Palin is looking for anything to help her get recognition from them good ol’ boys up north. She is truly a repugnant human. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/10 "2012-10-25T02:18:06Z")
I really want to watch a reality show with Palin and Trump, set in a prison. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/11 "2012-10-25T02:19:55Z")
It’s almost as if Sarah Palin registered a guest account on planet Earth in October 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/12 "2012-10-25T02:23:32Z")
Look, you can’t just tar all Republican’s with this brush just because some fringe fanatic posted something racist. I mean, she’s not a representative of the party. It’s not like… what? McCain did what? VICE WHAT??? When did this happen? Oh. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/13 "2012-10-25T02:35:49Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > That being said, are there any Palin fans/conservatives/Republicans/McCain-Palin voters that are able to defend this use of “shuck and jive?” Don’t be naive, Arthur. Each of us faces a clear moral choice. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/14 "2012-10-25T02:36:41Z")
Once again demonstrating why there will never be a President Palin. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/15 "2012-10-25T02:42:18Z")
at least she should be honest and admit he’s good at buckets too. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/16 "2012-10-25T02:42:42Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > That being said, are there any Palin fans/conservatives/Republicans/McCain-Palin voters that are able to defend this use of “shuck and jive?” My father-in-law uses “shuck and jive” without regard to race, color, or creed…? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/17 "2012-10-25T02:43:05Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Don’t be naive, Arthur. Each of us faces a clear moral choice. My only problem with clear moral choices is that there are so few of them. ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/18 "2012-10-25T02:46:55Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > That being said, are there any Palin fans/conservatives/Republicans/McCain-Palin voters that are able to defend this use of “shuck and jive?” Well, [apparently some of Obama’s buddies have also used the exact same phrase without anyone getting their panties in a bunch](http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2012/10/24/chris-matthews-who-used-phrase-shuck-and-jive-now-calls-sarah-palin-). [Here is the video of Jay Carney, Obama’s press secretary, engaging in vicious bigotry by using the ‘shuck and jive’ phrase](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/07/carney_im_going_to_shuck_and_jive.html). You’re going to rage against him too, right? There’s no possible way that your outrage over Palin’s choice of words is really just an excuse for partisan sniping, right? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/19 "2012-10-25T02:51:09Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > What a fucking ignorant, hateful piece of shit. What’s next, Ann Coulter calling the president a retard twitter? [Oh right…](http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/living/ann-coulter-obama-tweet/index.html) Would it make a difference if she had said, “The president is mentally deficient”? Is that “better” somehow? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784/20 "2012-10-25T02:53:44Z")
Oh, you guys are right. Other people have used a racist phrase so it’s okay for Palin. What was I thinking? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-be-shuckin-n-jivin-dontchyaknow/638784.md?page=2)