# Obama/Biden 08' **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 23, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017 "2008-08-23T12:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/241 "2008-08-26T05:28:05Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] You realize this is GD, right? So… cite? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/242 "2008-08-26T05:32:04Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] Frankly, I’m stunned that you think so little of Democrats, Republicans, CNN, Fox News, etc. that you believe the “fact” that Obama is barred by law from becoming President would’ve escaped everyone’s notice this long. Especially _Hillary Clinton, who would’ve given her left arm to be able to so decisively kick Obama out of her way_. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/243 "2008-08-26T05:57:59Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] If he’s Constitutionally ineligible to be President, then you guys don’t have to worry about anything at all, right? I mean, even if Obama were to win the Presidency, then he couldn’t legally be sworn in… so who cares if he gets any votes? Hell, for that matter, you guys don’t even have to worry about whether your chosen candidate- presumably McCain, although I’m not sure you’ve said- wins or not. Sleep in on election day! You’ve got it in the bag! You don’t even need to vote to win, right? Just relax, and let a technicality do your voting for you! Right? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/244 "2008-08-26T06:23:32Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] He is a citizen of neither. Come on, what kind of forum do you think this is? Do you really, deep down, even believe that crap yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/245 "2008-08-26T06:38:00Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] He is a citizen of neither. Come on, what kind of forum do you think this is? Do you really, deep down, even believe that crap yourself? [/QUOTE] But since the annexation of Hawaii was illegal as per Public Law 103-150, Section 1, subsection 1. He is a citizen of the Kingdom of Hawai’i and subject of the sovereign King Quentin Kawananakoa ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/246 "2008-08-26T13:00:08Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] Do you really believe that? Are there people who really believe this line of bullsh\*t?? I mean come on, for Og’s sake my 8 year old nephew knows better than that… ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/247 "2008-08-26T13:13:32Z")
[QUOTE=Saint Cad] But since the annexation of Hawaii was illegal as per Public Law 103-150, Section 1, subsection 1. He is a citizen of the Kingdom of Hawai’i and subject of the sovereign King Quentin Kawananakoa [/QUOTE] Which explains why he often refers to Michelle as Queen Comoniwannalayyou. I read it in the internet,…it must be true ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/248 "2008-08-26T13:55:38Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] Are there people who really believe this line of bullsh\*t?? [/QUOTE] [Probably](http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/53961/) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/249 "2008-08-26T14:07:55Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] You know what? Please tell me more, Carol Stream. If you have this information, I would like to see it. I don’t want to waste a vote on a man who is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutionally inelegible to be President. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/250 "2008-08-26T15:09:12Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] Constitutionally it would not matter if he were, so long as he were a native-born U.S. citizen as well, which he is. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/251 "2008-08-26T17:04:49Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] BWAAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAAAAHHhAHAaaaaaaaahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahaaahahahahaahahahhhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaaaaa!!! Ahhhhhhh…_gasp_…hahahahah…oh, can’t breathe…heeeeeee ah hahahha heeeeeee… heehe haha… hooo… Ahhhhh…heh. Whew! Man, that was…_giggle_…heh…pretty funny…Can’t…stop… BAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHOHOHOOOOOHOOHOOHOOOOOHOOOOoooooHOOHOHOHOHOHOOoOOOOOAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHEHEEEEEEEEEEEHEHEHHEHEHEHEEEEEEEEEEeheheheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhehehheeeheeeeeee…hehehehehee…hehahaha… WoooooooOOOOOOOOoooo… That’s funny. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/252 "2008-08-26T17:12:03Z")
Well, that’s gotta be a first in Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/253 "2008-08-26T17:24:26Z")
[QUOTE=Chris Moise] You embarrassed yourself there Carol Stream. Deeply. [/QUOTE] If you’ve been following this thread, you’ll see that **Carol Stream** has barely begun to embarrass him/herself. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/254 "2008-08-26T17:26:00Z")
Or any other thread \*\*Carol Stream \*\* has ever been a part of. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/255 "2008-08-26T17:28:09Z")
But oh so called for. **Carol** ’s posts are a self-parody. They are mindless repetition of whatever mindless passed on e-mail glurge gets passed along the right wing circuits trying to find enough fools to mindlessly accept and forward that a few idiots find there reason to vote against him. They are of comic value. But pointing out how they are false to **Carol** is a waste of good electrons. Just enjoy the giggles. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/256 "2008-08-26T17:37:23Z")
This is GD. She has already been colorfully insulted in the Pit. Perhaps someone wants to do it again. But at any rate, as far as the claim goes that Obama is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, well, I disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/257 "2008-08-26T17:52:00Z")
snerk ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/258 "2008-08-26T18:26:05Z")
Wilfully stupid opinions can only be properly engaged with mockery. Engaging stupid opinions seriously degrades the argument and weakens the arguer, which is the point of the stupid opinion to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/259 "2008-08-26T19:41:18Z")
There’s a schismatic group of Catholics called [Sedevacantists,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantists) which contends no legitimate pope has been installed since the death of Pius XII in 1958 because all purported popes since then were heretics and not “papabile” under canon law. I actually expect we’ll see something like that phenomenon on the RW, if Obama wins. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/260 "2008-08-26T20:17:29Z")
The only real effect this conspiracy-mongering will have is to rehabilitate Dan Rather’s reputation. A decade from now, there’ll just be a vague memory that right-wingers said that the Bush National Guard memos were fake and that Obama’s birth certificate was fake, and the two incidents will sort of blend together and be equally dismissed as partisan BS. It would be amusing if any of the conspiracy-mongers has a moment of lucidity, followed by a “My God, What Have I Done?” realization, following by a cranial explosion… 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017.md?page=14)