# Obama/Biden 08' **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 23, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017 "2008-08-23T12:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/261 "2008-08-26T20:28:37Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] There’s a schismatic group of Catholics called [Sedevacantists,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantists) which contends no legitimate pope has been installed since the death of Pius XII in 1958 because all purported popes since then were heretics and not “papabile” under canon law. I actually expect we’ll see something like that phenomenon on the RW, if Obama wins. [/QUOTE] That phenomenon is based in fear, if the RW’s get more fearful, what do you think they are likely to do? American Revolution part deux? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/262 "2008-08-26T20:36:08Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Why not? He’s got so many names to choose from. [/QUOTE] You forgot [“Eldon Smith”](http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0808/The_GOPs_2008_nominee_isEldon_Smith.html)… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/263 "2008-08-26T21:30:16Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] The fact that he is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and therefore Constitutioanlly inelegible to be President. [/QUOTE] He lost any claim to Kenyan citizenship when he turned 21, as you and your pals would know had you only read a little further in the [Kenyan Constitution](http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap6.html): > [@](#): > > 1. Dual citizenship > A person who, upon the attainment of the age of twenty-one years, is a citizen of Kenya and also a citizen of some country other than Kenya shall, subject to subsection (7), cease to be a citizen of Kenya upon the specified date unless he has renounced his citizenship of that other country, taken the oath of allegiance and, in the case of a person who was born outside Kenya. made and registered such declaration of his intentions concerning residence as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament. He never had claim to Indonesian citizenship. He was a minor (ages six to ten), was not adopted by his stepfather, and his mother held American citizenship throughout. Despite the view of certain fevered imaginations, the act of marrying a foreigner and moving to another country did not mean the loss of U.S. citizenship for his mother. Finally, even if this was true, even if Obama does hold Kenyan and/or Indonesian citizenship, it doesn’t matter. He is a natural born citizen of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/264 "2008-08-26T22:09:50Z")
Nevermind **Frank** , do you really think **Carol** knows how to take your facts and use them constructively? I’ts sort of a waste of time arguing with people who blather nonfacts. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017/265 "2008-08-26T22:28:14Z")
OK. I am not sure whether or not **Carol Stream** is trolling, but I am not moving this to the Pit (where the last few posts were heading), so I am going to close this thread before it is irretrievably lost. The topic is still valid and there is no prejudice against opening a new thread on the topic, but this thread is too far gone to reclaim. [/Moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-biden-08/461017.md?page=13)