# Obama calls for independent Palestine, 1967 borders **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 19, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500 "2011-05-19T20:46:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500/621 "2011-06-26T05:14:14Z")
The current PLO doesn’t even prevent terrorism. Even when they have the means to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500/622 "2011-06-27T14:13:36Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Huh? > > I merely asked a question. Damuri has repeatedly claimed he had Finn on ignore and then just quoted him. > > What’s wrong with asking him how this came to be? If I had Finn on my ignore list, then how would I even know he hasn’t been around in a while? If I had Finn on my ignore list then I would know he hasn’t been around in a while because putting someone on ignore doesn’t eliminate that person’s post. The post is there, you just don’t see the text unless you click on a box that reveals the text, it almost turns their post into a spoiler box. Are you trying to add to the deabte or are you just trying to question my credibility on tangential issues? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500/623 "2011-06-27T14:19:03Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > If I had Finn on my ignore list, then how would I even know he hasn’t been around in a while? > > If I had Finn on my ignore list then I would know he hasn’t been around in a while because putting someone on ignore doesn’t eliminate that person’s post. The post is there, you just don’t see the text unless you click on a box that reveals the text, it almost turns their post into a spoiler box. > > Are you trying to add to the deabte or are you just trying to question my credibility on tangential issues? No, I was merely confused. You’ve claimed you had Finn on ignore unless I greatly misremember, but in your above post you actually quoted him. I merely asked how this happened that’s all? I assumed the answer was that you’d decided to take him off the ignore list. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500/624 "2011-06-27T14:20:38Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > If we don’t want posters announcing who is on their ignore list, we certainly don’t want third parties getting into the middle of their conflicts. > > Leave it alone. > > [/Moderating] Of COURSE he was accusing me of lying, wtf else does it mean when you say “For the love of… yet again, this is there is a claim that I’ve said something, and no cite” Why else do you point out the lack of a cite other than to imply that I am lying? The fact that other people get moderated for far less obvious offenses while Finn’s behaviour get overlooked is sadly a common enough occurence that it has become expected. There is a difference between asking for a cite and what Finn is doing here. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500/625 "2011-06-27T14:23:36Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > No, I was merely confused. > > You’ve claimed you had Finn on ignore unless I greatly misremember, but in your above post you actually quoted him. > > I merely asked how this happened that’s all? > > I assumed the answer was that you’d decided to take him off the ignore list. Once again IF I had Finn on my ignore list, it would not prevent me from seeing his posts by clicking on a little box for THAT ONE POST. And for the record, I currently have NOONE on my ignore list. I might have had someone on my ignore list at one point but their posting behaviour became more toerable when they disappeared from the board. ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500/626 "2011-06-27T16:25:11Z")
[quote=“CitizenPained, post:609, topic:582500”] > [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > Cite? > > edit: IF you want to tout intl law, Palestinians would be ‘breaking’ it by going directly to the U.N. 😉 If the PA wants to act unilaterally, so can Israel. And that means the PA will lose. **[United Nations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) [Security Council Resolution](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_resolution) 446**, adopted on March 22, 1979, concerned the issue of [Israeli settlements](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlements) in the “Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem”.[[1]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_446#cite_note-un-0) This refers to the [Palestinian territories](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories) of the [West Bank](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank), [East Jerusalem](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem) and the [Gaza Strip](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip) as well as the [Syrian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria) [Golan Heights](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights). In the Resolution, the [Security Council](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Council) determined: “that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East” > **[United Nations Security Council Resolution 446](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_446)** > > United Nations Security Council resolution 446, adopted on 22 March 1979, concerned the issue of Israeli settlements in the "Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem". This refers to the Palestinian territories of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip as well as the Syrian Golan Heights. > In the resolution, the Security Council determined: "that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occ... I don’t understand how the Palestinians could be breaking international law by going to one of the highest arbiters of international law. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-calls-for-independent-palestine-1967-borders/582500.md?page=31)