# Obama campaign finally fights back--What do you think? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 12, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286 "2008-09-12T15:35:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/61 "2008-09-13T21:52:18Z")
I liked the 1982 ad. I’m hoping the campaign knows exactly when to use it. Obviously, this ad should not be aired on 60 minutes or the network evening news shows which have an older audience. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/62 "2008-09-13T22:24:38Z")
He’s got a new (and IMO best of all) ad starting today Called “It’s Over”: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OHvb4O_bkoo/hqdefault.jpg ""It's Over" Ad") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHvb4O_bkoo) Ed ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/63 "2008-09-13T22:46:11Z")
> [@Orbifold](#): > > [Senator John McCain using his Blackberry.](http://www.rimarkable.com/senator-john-mccain-is-a-blackberry-user) > > [Also, according to his own campaign:](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/09/obama-slams-mcc.html) > So, no. #1 - He’s speaking on it, not typing. #2 - I have heard from other sources that his family helps him when he does use the computer because of his disability. ---
**Author:** ![Hugh\_Jass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@Hugh\_Jass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hugh_Jass)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/64 "2008-09-13T22:47:39Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > He’s got a new (and IMO best of all) ad starting today Called “It’s Over”: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHvb4O\_bkoo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHvb4O_bkoo) > > Ed Yeah, I think that is the best of the three. Both factual and damning. I may be the only one who liked that 1982 ad. I have been eager for Obama to truly fight back. I wanted to see some genuine attacks, and I feel that ad did it. Givin’ 'em some of their own medicine, in other words. But several people have made good points as to why the other ad was better. I think this third ad that suranyi linked to is the best of both worlds. I don’t think it is stretching the truth, but it is certainly something that people can understand, ie, McCain’s in the pocket of the lobbyists and his talk of change is bs. As for the “can’t use a key board because of being a POW” I think if it were to blow up, it would be easy to show people with much more severe difficulties who have overcome them to work in the computer field, or at least make use of email. They have set ups for blind people, for god’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/65 "2008-09-14T01:01:06Z")
> [@Mr.Svinlesha](#): > > And yet, in the face of ads that flatly lie about Obama’s record, and insinuate he’s a child molester, you chose to label this relatively harmless add about McCain’s **self-admitted** computer illiteracy as, _“Worst ad ever.”_ > > :rolleyes: I didn’t mean it in a moral sense - I meant it in terms of whether it will be effective or blow back in his face. And the ‘Worst ever’ remark is humor. Admittedly, the phrase is getting tired, and I’ll probably have to retire it. It’s a play on Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. It’s just a humorous way of saying that it’s a crappy ad in terms of achieving anything positive for Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/66 "2008-09-14T01:16:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > And the ‘Worst ever’ remark is humor. Well, there’s your problem. We so rarely see humor from conservatives that when it is offered, it confuses us. Remember _The 1/2 Hour News Hour_ on Fox News? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/67 "2008-09-14T21:32:15Z")
New Obama ad, just released today. Called “His Administration”: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/hjS5sjxTnwo/hqdefault.jpg ""His Administration" Ad") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjS5sjxTnwo) Ed ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/68 "2008-09-14T21:43:35Z")
It’s about time Obama started fighting fire with fire. I also like that he’s launching his own attacks and not just continuing to respond to mud McCain has slung, whicih is part of the Republican plan to keep Obama constantly on the defensive. (It’s also good the media is waking up and calling McCain and his pick on their lies.) Didn’t McCain only just recently start saying he didn’t type because of his war injury, rather than previous statements sayng it was because he typed laboriously slow and Cindy was faster? It might have been in this thread and I might be wrong about that but I’m sure I read that somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286/69 "2008-09-15T02:31:46Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > Didn’t McCain only just recently start saying he didn’t type because of his war injury, rather than previous statements sayng it was because he typed laboriously slow and Cindy was faster? It might have been in this thread and I might be wrong about that but I’m sure I read that somewhere. No. Stories about his war wounds making it hard to type have been around for a decade. Here’s a new article by [Jake Tapper](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/why-doesnt-mcca.html) of ABC news: > [@](#): > > I realize some of the nastier liberals in the blogosphere will see this as McCain once again “playing the POW card,” but it’s simply a fact: typing on a regular keyboard for any sustained period of time bothers McCain physically. > > He can type, he occasionally does type, but in general the injuries he sustained as a POW – ones that make it impossible for him to raise his arms high enough to comb his hair – mean that small tasks make his shoulders ache, so he tries to avoid any repetitive exercise. > > Again, it’s not that he can’t type, he just by habit avoids when he can repetitive exercise involving his arms. He does if he has to, as with handshaking or autographs. > > It’s certainly possible that the Obama campaign did not know this, since McCain makes it sound in interviews as if this is a matter of choice, not discomfort because of his war wounds. > > “I read my e-mails, but I don’t write any,” McCain told Fortune Magazine in 2006. “I’m a Neanderthal - I don’t even type. I do have rudimentary capabilities to call up some websites, like the New York Times online, that sort of stuff. No laptop. No PalmPilot. I prefer my schedule on notecards, which I keep in my jacket pocket.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-campaign-finally-fights-back-what-do-you-think/463286.md?page=3)