# Obama Cancels Missile Shield: Putin to Reciprocate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 17, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514 "2009-09-17T23:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/61 "2009-09-19T03:40:24Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Now the question is:will Russia offer anything for this? Damn, I can’t quite put my finger on it, but didn’t Russia already give something to Obama several months ago? I seem to recall Republican speculation on what Obama must have promised Putin. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/62 "2009-09-19T03:51:44Z")
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/63 "2009-09-19T04:37:25Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Damn, I can’t quite put my finger on it, but didn’t Russia already give something to Obama several months ago? I seem to recall Republican speculation on what Obama must have promised Putin. What are you talking about? How exactly is Putin supposed to be benefitting by the US removing a fake, imaginary “defense shield” anyway? What can Putin do without the MNS in place that he couldn’t do WITH it in place? ---
**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/64 "2009-09-19T09:08:07Z")
It’s franky absurd and bizarre to look at this policy decision in isoloation. No one has a fucking clue what the deal is with what interested party, of which there are very many. Far less the range of complex knock-on effects, which would also have been weighed these past few months. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/65 "2009-09-19T14:30:57Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Damn, I can’t quite put my finger on it, but didn’t Russia already give something to Obama several months ago? I seem to recall Republican speculation on what Obama must have promised Putin. I remember now. during Obama’s visit to Russia a couple of months ago, it was announced that Russia gave Obama permission to fly military planes in Russian airspace to resupply Afghanistan. ---
**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/66 "2009-09-23T22:25:56Z")
This could also be related: [BBC: Russia eases over Iran sanctions](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8271990.stm) ---
**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/67 "2009-09-26T06:49:27Z")
[Part of the pay off falls neatly into place:](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6849865.ece) > [@](#): > > Russia was privately briefed on the intelligence on Wednesday and is expected to issue a statement from Moscow tomorrow. **After hearing of the secret plant, President Medvedev said he believed that sanctions were inevitable**. His spokeswoman said the statement was expected to be “in the same spirit” –\*\* paving the way for a united front on new sanctions that would include Moscow for the first time.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/68 "2009-09-26T10:46:49Z")
Do you think Obama’s cultural heritage plays a part here? Not being part of the whole CIA-east coast complex that Bush I and II were? Only Nixon could go to China… but words a Bush said could never be trusted. (And not because he’s W.) ---
**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/69 "2009-09-26T13:14:02Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Do you think Obama’s cultural heritage plays a part here? Not being part of the whole CIA-east coast complex that Bush I and II were? Only Nixon could go to China… but words a Bush said could never be trusted. (And not because he’s W.) Maybe, but what is also important, and I imagine much under-played in the USA, is the financial reality after the banking collapse. The US military will not have experienced budgets choices like this before. It would make sense to think the JCoS were consulted and made very aware of the realities as I’m not aware of any public dissent emerging on this. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/70 "2009-09-26T17:42:52Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Bwahahahaha… > > I’m sorry, but I can’t…bwahahahahahah > > Putin… reciprocate… bwahahahaha > > Sorry. I was overcome by the moment. **Sam** , anything else to add? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514/71 "2009-09-26T21:19:42Z")
Oh, sure, budget issues, but I was talking about Putin responding to Obama, as opposed to how he’d respond to someone who was raised in the east coast elite/CIA. That is, over _there_, not over _here_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-cancels-missile-shield-putin-to-reciprocate/510514.md?page=3)