Either you are not reading what I am typing or you are doing this on purpose. Obama has a ‘Jewish voter’ problem. That has been established.
Again, you’re making this about Netanyahu’s policies, not about Obama’s relationship with American Jews. I suppose if you want to make the argument that Dems will take up this mantra-- “Bibi is a Butthead!”, that’s your call.
There have been various threads on the Dope about Obama and Jewish voters as of late. Are you angry about them as well? Or just mine, because you perceive me to be some kind of conservative party hack?
I promise, as soon as that slipup happened, the party operatives went, “OH SHIT!” :smack::smack:
I don’t think he does. Obama has a voter problem in general. . .his approval rating is down. But Jews are still more likely to approve of Obama than the general population, and his approval rating among Jews isn’t declining any faster than his approval rating in the general population.
It is really bordering on the surreal that you keep making this out to be a gaffe or a slip-up. And it painfully clear this is more about your paranoid Israeli politics than the US president.
The US president made an anodyne response that implied indirectly what is really well-known, Bibi is a bastard to deal with (plenty of foreign observers have said so already, it’s not really shocking). It was the French President who called him a liar and was the initiator. In a private conversation one does not expect the US President should in any way feel obliged to rush to the defence of someone from another country. Particularly as it really doesn’t gain the US anything at all.
The “gaffe” was on the part of the French hosts, not the US president, anyone with the slightest rationality can see that.
Of course I’ve learned over the years that a certain segment of the US population seems unable to distinguish rationally between Israel and USA. Queer thing, but there it is.
It would be interesting to debate why is Netanyahu considered to be a bastard and a liar. I would argue that it stems from his characteristics as a political leader and his inability to compromise and play along the generally accepted lines of normal course for resolution of P-I issue. Only to later blame everyone else for failed progress. So, yeah, I can understand why would hard-core Zionist be upset with Sarkozy and Obama confirming each other perception of the guy.
I dont think they call him bastard because he does not call a round of beer once in a while or a liar because he says he’ll be in some irish pub but ends up in a strip joint.
Therefore, it is an issue that needs to get people to talk about it as it further exposes how ludicrous the whole process is and how unattanaible it is under current Israeli government.
To reduce this “gaffe” to an issue of Obama’s re-election chances and how it plays out in US politics is a typical misdirection that swamps what should, in my opinion, be s subject of discussion - is Netanyahu honest broker for peace or does he have other plans.
I was a journalist once, and IME they never “agree” with journalists at other outfits not to report something. If they all see something they don’t report, it’s because they all know it ain’t news.
Clearly the Jewish controlled media is biased against Jews and will not run the story. Or am I mixing up talking points? It’s harder for liberals because we don’t have the direct line to Limbaugh and God (or are they the same person these days, I can’t keep up).
The fact that all journalists answer to editors who nowadays answer to MBAs in suits does have some effect on editorial content; but an industry-wide spiking of a story would require more coordination than appears possible at present.
Well, there was the first President Bush who was quite hostile to Israel, had a Palestinian-American Chief of Staff who was also quite hostile to Israel, and who had a Secratary of State who proclaimed “fuck the Jews. They didn’t vote for us.”