# Obama {deals | caves} on tax cut extensions

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 7, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266 "2010-12-07T13:56:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266/221 "2010-12-11T03:56:39Z")

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Success? They don’t have the presidency or the Senate. They have a narrow house edge. They do however filbusrter the Senate in a new and un-American way.

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**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266/222 "2010-12-11T16:48:48Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> When Obama retreated from this, he might as well went to the WH and started packing - he’s done

Oh, absolutely. In fact, that oft-mentioned “permanent Republican majority” is well on its way to becoming a reality. Very astute, fer shur.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266/223 "2010-12-11T18:23:50Z")

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So why should Obama not advance the tax deal at this point? He’s committed now. It’s not like any supporters who are angry at him right now will suddenly forgive him if it falls through, so why should he bother?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266/224 "2010-12-12T07:39:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Our people are not patient with nuance and complexity, they want the memo to be ten words or less, and none longer than two syllables. And you can’t just hand it to them, you have to staple it to their nose. Our national motto might well be “tl:dr”.

I don’t think in soundbites and this capitulation makes no sense to me.

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> the Republicans will do anything it takes to get their way for their wealthy patrons.

You’ve talked me down a great deal but I know enough Republicans to know better. They are doing what they think its going to work. Why give up on the tax cuts for the rich when Obama is going to cave on the issue.

I hope this works out the way Obama plans (if he has a plan).

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266/225 "2010-12-12T07:41:10Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> So why should Obama not advance the tax deal at this point? He’s committed now. It’s not like any supporters who are angry at him right now will suddenly forgive him if it falls through, so why should he bother?

Obama isn’t going to pull the deal, that doesn’t mean that the Democrats in congress will go along.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-deals-caves-on-tax-cut-extensions/563266/226 "2010-12-12T08:01:58Z")

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All I want to say is that Shayna has gotten me more fired up than Obama ever has.

Does it do any good to write to a Congressperson who is a Republican, though?

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