# Obama: Do not underestimate Trump

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 16, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312 "2017-01-16T13:36:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/61 "2017-01-17T11:39:41Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Toby Keith gonna perform his “Kick Muslim Butt” song, isn’t he? Fuck. Chuck Norris with a guitar.

To be fair, he has no problems with same-sex marriage. Go figure.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/62 "2017-01-17T11:46:11Z")

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No matter whom the inaugural performers are, we know one thing for certain.

There will be lots of clapping on the 1 and 3.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/63 "2017-01-17T11:53:32Z")

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…from the four people and a dog who are actually there…

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/64 "2017-01-17T12:31:11Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> [Barack Obama warns Americans not to ‘underestimate’ Donald Trump in final interview](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-16/obama-says-dont-underestimate-donald-trump-in-final-interview/8185104)
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> And yes, I know he didn’t mean it as a compliment but a warning. Yet underestimating Trump is just what liberals here on this board and across the nation have been doing throughout his campaign and since his victory.
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> I was guilty of it myself before he got elected. I really believed that he would cost the Republicans a decent shot at the Presidency. I certainly won’t underestimate him again.
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> I really don’t get the liberals. If they want to fight against Trump then, as Obama implied, they need to take him seriously. They laugh at him at their peril. They were so doubled up with laughter during the election that they didn’t realize he was screwing them until they felt the sharp pain in their ass.
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> Still, mock on, guys. It serves all of us on the right well. 🙂

At first you say that you were guilty of underestimating him, which implies that you do not support him…but you close your missive with

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> Still, mock on, guys. It serves all of us on the right well. 🙂

. Are you for, or against, Trump?

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**Author:** ![phantom\_lamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@phantom\_lamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phantom_lamb)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/65 "2017-01-17T12:56:54Z")

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Who are these people the OP is referring to that are still laughing at Trump? I have the impression we have long since changed our tune. It isn’t funny anymore…

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/66 "2017-01-17T13:09:38Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Rum, sodomy and the lash. Pick two.

I have one follow-up question about the sodomy…

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/67 "2017-01-17T14:27:36Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I have one follow-up question about the sodomy…

Pitching or catching?

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/68 "2017-01-17T19:35:49Z")

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Forgive me if this has already been noted but it wasn’t Trump that was underestimated, it was the American voter that was _over_estimated. Pretty silly considering the number of people who watch Jerry Springer, WWE and the like.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/69 "2017-01-17T20:55:09Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Toby Keith gonna perform his “Kick Muslim Butt” song, isn’t he? Fuck. Chuck Norris with a guitar.

Sometimes others say it better than I ever could…

> [@Greg Giraldo on the 'Roast of Larry](#):
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> "It’s great to see Toby Keith. Toby, I’m glad you could taking time off from spitting on Mexicans to be here. You put the ‘big’ in ‘bigot.’ I really enjoyed your latest single, “Get Out of My Country You Camel-Jockey Wetback Faggot Spook Jew.”

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/70 "2017-01-18T20:23:56Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Sometimes others say it better than I ever could…

I miss Greg. Wish he’d have stuck around at least until the roast of Trump in 2011.

Speaking of which, I just saw [this article](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-inside-story-of-donald-trumps-comedy-central-roast-is-everything-you-thought-it-would-be_us_57fbed42e4b0e655eab6c191) about it, purporting to give behind-the-scenes details. Surprise! Trump was controlling, lacked a sense of humor, forbade any jokes that suggested he wasn’t as rich as he claims to be, and brought his own audience. Afterward, he exaggerated about how much money Comedy Central had paid him (or rather, donated to his charity).

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/71 "2017-01-18T22:17:35Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I miss Greg. Wish he’d have stuck around at least until the roast of Trump in 2011.
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> Speaking of which, I just saw [this article](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-inside-story-of-donald-trumps-comedy-central-roast-is-everything-you-thought-it-would-be_us_57fbed42e4b0e655eab6c191) about it, purporting to give behind-the-scenes details. Surprise! Trump was controlling, lacked a sense of humor, forbade any jokes that suggested he wasn’t as rich as he claims to be, and brought his own audience. Afterward, he exaggerated about how much money Comedy Central had paid him (or rather, donated to his charity).

Greg would have been great at the Trump roast, but I think Anthony J and Gilbert Gottfried were a decent replacement. Then again, I’m a YUGE Gilbert Gottfried fan.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/72 "2017-01-19T05:39:08Z")

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Yup, we underestimated Trump.

However that was before the election, I don’t think it will be as big of an issue now. If anything people are panicking and assuming the worst.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/73 "2017-01-19T05:41:45Z")

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Trump’s already revealed his 2020 slogan: “Keep America Great.”

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/74 "2017-01-19T17:45:55Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Trump announced today that NATO is “obsolete,” contonuing to pave the way for a sellout to his Russian debtholders and a possible Third World War. I do not underestimate his ability to reduce Western civilization to cinders and kill my family.
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> Make no mistake, he’s the greatest threat to Western civilization since Stalin. I would not underestimate that.

People just don’t get this. Trump thinks America hold all the aces. He’s too stupid to count the cards and see that there are no aces left in play.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/75 "2017-01-19T17:52:29Z")

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Even God speaks as to this nightmare.

_The chance of showers will increase throughout the morning – from around 40% at 7 a.m. to 70 to 80% when Trump puts his hand on the Bible to take the oath of office at noon. The rain should move out of the area by time the inaugural parade begins making its way through the District’s streets at 3 p.m._  
From CNN

Please rain on his parade.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/76 "2017-01-19T18:40:12Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> …from around 40% at 7 a.m. to 70 to 80% when Trump puts his hand on the Bible…

Good, it will put out the fire.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/77 "2017-01-19T18:47:34Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> …from around 40% at 7 a.m. to 70 to 80% when Trump puts his hand on the Bible…

He is putting his hand on _two_ Bibles-The Lincoln Bible that Obama used, and his family Bible. I don’t know if they will be put side-by-side with his hand stretched across both of them, or one on top of the other.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/78 "2017-01-19T18:49:21Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> He is putting his hand on _two_ Bibles-The Lincoln Bible that Obama used, and his family Bible. I don’t know if they will be put side-by-side with his hand stretched across both of them, or one on top of the other.

Maybe a Bible sandwich. You know, to hide his little-bitty fingers.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/79 "2017-01-19T22:24:49Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> No matter whom the inaugural performers are, we know one thing for certain.
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> There will be lots of clapping on the 1 and 3.

This is why Trump won.

But seriously, why don’t white people have rhythm? I’d figure science would have an answer by now.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-do-not-underestimate-trump/777312/80 "2017-01-20T00:58:03Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> “doubled up with laughter during the election”
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> The [hilarity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahkMA6JPOHU) was before Nov 8th. The butthurt whining - after.

Don’t worry, the real suffering will start soon enough.

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