# Obama does his best to degrade a couple of Marines.  Next episode:  Wipers!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 16, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538 "2013-05-16T18:51:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/221 "2013-05-17T22:48:08Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> one thinks your post is stupid. not as stupid as the OP, but still pretty stupid.

Well, really, this is a compliment. For Clothahump, “not as stupid as” might as well be a blue ribbon.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/222 "2013-05-17T23:13:23Z")

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Would the OP feel better if he knew that those weren’t umbrellas, but actually sophisticated anti-missile shields that cost upwards of seven billion a piece?

And, true to form for any major defense acquisition, that they are not actually effective at all as anti-missile shields?

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/223 "2013-05-17T23:34:45Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> When you’ve been a part of something bigger than the school orchestra, come out and play.

I wondered something, on seeing the above post.

Has the **OP** ever been in the military, any branch?

I was in the Army, not the Marines, so I wouldn’t have been tasked with, in most cases, direct protection detail. Heck, I was a linguist and radio operator, so I would likely have never been NEAR the President.

But if I had I’d have been _honored_ to hold the umbrella over them. It’s my CIC, dammit, and an honored guest. Their race, religion, political party, wouldn’t matter. As someone upthread said, it would be something to tell the kids about. _“Yeah, I was **THIS** close to Pres. Obama, this is the picture. I’ll bet you never thought your 'ol Grandma met anyone important, huh?”_

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/224 "2013-05-17T23:59:19Z")

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> [@LouLou7](#):
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> Wait, what?
> 
> Is this true? Pee pads and catheters in the boots? Please tell me you’re joking.
> 
> I guess I’ve always assumed our military personnel were potty trained. I hate to think they’re standing there in adult diapers or maxi pads while they’re in uniform.
> 
> 😕

[Well …](http://yarpnews.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/secrets-under-the-bearskin-the-truth-about-the-queens-guard/)

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> The trousers or pants of the modern guards still hide one secret, one which allows them to remain as still as possible during their many hours standing on guard. The army have equipped each guardsman with a device they call a Disposable, Individually-wrapped, Army Personnel Excretion Receptacle or D.I.A.P.E.R. …

Nothing about catheters though …

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/225 "2013-05-18T00:08:48Z")

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Well damn, I kind of wish I was an attention whore troll, cuz this thread would have fit the bill perfectly.

Unfortunately, I’ll be spending the next ten days with pretty much all of my internet access limited to my phone…and I’ve no intention of playing this game via Swype.

So farewell for now, and I love you all. Mwah! Mwah! Mwah#

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**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/226 "2013-05-18T00:11:27Z")

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[4 Presidents, 4 Umbrellas, 1 Outrage - What’s the Difference?](http://imgur.com/6Ehz1cV)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/227 "2013-05-18T00:16:27Z")

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> [@lisacurl](#):
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> [4 Presidents, 4 Umbrellas, 1 Outrage - What’s the Difference?](http://imgur.com/6Ehz1cV)

Is Reagan’s umbrella caddy a Marine? I can barely make out medals, but the outfit seems civilian-ish to my untrained eye.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/228 "2013-05-18T00:31:52Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Well damn, I kind of wish I was an attention whore troll, cuz this thread would have fit the bill perfectly.
> 
> Unfortunately, I’ll be spending the next ten days with pretty much all of my internet access limited to my phone…and I’ve no intention of playing this game via Swype.
> 
> So farewell for now, and I love you all. Mwah! Mwah! Mwah#

In other words, you know you’ve lost, and nearly everyone else posting in this thread thinks you are a jerk. So you slink away and hope we will forget how stupid your OP was.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/229 "2013-05-18T00:32:23Z")

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> [@lisacurl](#):
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> [4 Presidents, 4 Umbrellas, 1 Outrage - What’s the Difference?](http://imgur.com/6Ehz1cV)

Because, as we all know, it didn’t rain during the Clinton administration.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/230 "2013-05-18T01:09:59Z")

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…His state  
Is kingly; thousands at his bidding speed  
And post o’er land and ocean without rest:  
They also serve who only stand and wait.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/231 "2013-05-18T01:40:10Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> I struggling to think of any prior example of a substantial (few pages) pit thread where _no one_ agrees with the OP. Some sort of backhanded congratulation seems in order.

Yeah, even that “Ask The Pedophile Wife-Beating Scientologist Cat-Declawer” thread had _ **Liberal** _ and _ **Carol Stream** _ defending the OP, just for the attention …

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/232 "2013-05-18T01:59:27Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Well damn, I kind of wish I was an attention whore troll, cuz this thread would have fit the bill perfectly.
> 
> Unfortunately, I’ll be spending the next ten days with pretty much all of my internet access limited to my phone…and I’ve no intention of playing this game via Swype.
> 
> So farewell for now, and I love you all. Mwah! Mwah! Mwah#

[Buh bye.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgCq7oQ-dZE)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/233 "2013-05-18T02:07:52Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Sorry, I’ll stop prattling on about the olden days and go back in the house to watch _Matlock_ reruns now.

You folks mock, but have any of you actually seen an episode of Matlock and how deftly plotted and artfully acted it was? I have. It wasn’t. It just blew.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> As I recall, reeder passed the point of no return when he started a thread to complain about one of Bush’s DAUGHTERS. She’d stuck her tongue out at reporters, or something.

Had a girlfriend who said when I stuck out my tongue, “Don’t stick it out if you don’t intend to use it.” I did and she wasn’t near as pretty as the Bush girls.

> [@Spiff](#):
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> **Reeder** passed the point of no return when he died.

And he proved that there is no afterlife because the **Reeder** we knew and loved would not have allowed mere death to stop him from posting if there were.

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**Author:** ![StaudtCJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@StaudtCJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StaudtCJ)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/234 "2013-05-18T02:13:41Z")

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Well, he should have had female marines. Female marines can carry and use umbrellas. But then, we’d be hearing about the gender discrimination of the white house occupants instead of their total disregard for the honor of service members.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/235 "2013-05-18T02:14:03Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> What is a marine supposed to do?

KILL ! KILL ! KILL !

I’m sorry, we weren’t drilling ? My bad.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/236 "2013-05-18T05:04:27Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Nothing about catheters though …

The official US military version is called an “Advanced Mission Extender Device” or “AMXD”. I can’t figure out if honor guards actually wear them during ceremonies, though I wouldn’t be surprised: it’s not as though they can just step out for a pee if they need one.

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**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/237 "2013-05-18T05:27:40Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I am a little curious about why Obama couldn’t hold his own damn umbrella, though. Was he doing something with his hands? 😕

Then you force the Turkish PM to do the same. And both would be accused of acting undignified.

There are no reasonable options in this scenario that wouldn’t have been subject to criticism by the opposition.

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**Author:** ![Doggo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Doggo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doggo)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/238 "2013-05-18T12:08:33Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Poor little Republicans. Desperately searching for anything they can to turn into a scandal. Living their miserable lives deperate for another shot of outrage and anger at the black non-Republican who dares to be President.
> 
> Must be a horrible existence. 1000 years of darkness indeed, but it seems obvious where that darkness lies. In their own hearts and minds.
> 
> You create your own hell on this Earth, folks.

Why do you say"black". Obama is 50% white or are you ashamed to call him half caste?

BTW, if I was American I’d probably be a Democrat, but I agree with the OP.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/239 "2013-05-18T13:11:58Z")

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> [@lisacurl](#):
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> [4 Presidents, 4 Umbrellas, 1 Outrage - What’s the Difference?](http://imgur.com/6Ehz1cV)

Dammit, I came in here to post this picture. Curse you, **lisacurl**!

I find it very amusing that **Sicks Ate** flounced his way out of this thread just _three minutes_ before you managed to post that picture. Why, it’s almost like he saw that pic somewhere else and wanted to bail before someone was able to post it and prove him so horribly, horribly wrong.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/240 "2013-05-18T13:16:36Z")

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> [@Doggo](#):
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> Why do you say"black". Obama is 50% white or are you ashamed to call him half caste?

'Cause he is. He’s not being judged on his pedigree, he’s being judged his appearance… and he’s black enough that, in the south, he’d still be called the n-word.

> [@Doggo](#):
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> BTW, if I was American I’d probably be a Democrat, but I agree with the OP.

While I do think that us Americans tend to deify our politicians way too much, this is nothing that previous Presidents haven’t done. What’s so special about _this_ President?

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