# Obama does his best to degrade a couple of Marines.  Next episode:  Wipers!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 16, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538 "2013-05-16T18:51:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/361 "2013-05-23T20:58:02Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> George Washington: Super Pimp.

And Washington’s wooden teeth were actually an early version of grillz.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/362 "2013-05-24T12:12:11Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Now, if only those marines had floated in, hanging onto their umbrellas…
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> …then this story might actually be, y’know, interesting.  
> Which brings up a good point. How does the Independent Voter react to these kind of stories? This sort of vindictive nit-picking by the right wing would push me away from the Republican Party _so_ fast… _“Honey, the righties are rolling out another hate-filled screed about something minor.”_ “Thanks, hon. Well, looks like I’m voting for Anyone Without An ‘R’ After Their Name next time…”

As an independent voter, yes, but the liberals can be just as stupid about things like this. Mountains out of molehills - throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/363 "2013-05-24T12:15:51Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I see uniforms like that and I wonder how the military kept open gays out for so long.

I wouldn’t say that to Basil Plumley’s face. Even now that he is dead. That was one tough son of a bitch. The only guy who could have Sam Elliot play him in a movie and it still not seem tough enough.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/364 "2013-05-24T12:40:39Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I wouldn’t say that to Basil Plumley’s face. Even now that he is dead. That was one tough son of a bitch.

With \*that \*for a name, he’d have to be.

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**Author:** ![Molesworth\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9dc877/32.png) [@Molesworth\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molesworth_2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/365 "2013-05-24T12:49:57Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Here is a picture of Bush showing his deep respect for the military. [http://pinterest.com/pin/41517627786996646/](http://pinterest.com/pin/41517627786996646/)

I was sure that that link would direct me to this picture of frat-boy Bush showing his deep respect for the US military before sending them off to die in a War based on lies: [http://badattitudes.com/MT/BushChestBump3.html](http://badattitudes.com/MT/BushChestBump3.html)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/366 "2013-05-24T14:46:04Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> With \*that \*for a name, he’d have to be.

One of 324 people to have been awarded the Combat Infantry Badge with 3 stars (denoting combat service in WWII, Korea and Viet Nam).  
And he may be the only Airborne soldier who had 5 combat jumps. 4 with the 82nd in WWII and 1 in Korea.

> **[Basil L. Plumley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_L._Plumley)**
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> Basil Leonard Plumley (January 1, 1920 – October 10, 2012) was an American soldier who served in the United States Army for over three decades, rising to the rank of command sergeant major. He was a combat veteran of World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War, and is most noted for his actions during the Battle of Ia Drang in Vietnam.
> Basil Leonard Plumley was born on January 1, 1920, in Blue Jay, West Virginia, one of six children born to coal miner Clay Plumley and his wife Georgia. ...

[http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/10/16/2242140/a-peaceful-goodbye-for-three-war.html](http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/10/16/2242140/a-peaceful-goodbye-for-three-war.html)

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/367 "2013-05-25T08:09:33Z")

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If anyone runs into **Sicks Ate** in another thread _please_ ask him to come back here and comment on the pictures of Republican Presidents humiliating Marines. We know he’s not a racist, because he told us so. If he has any integrity at all, he’ll come back, if only to claim he was experimenting with new dosages for his meds that day.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/368 "2013-05-26T04:36:03Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > I wouldn’t say that to Basil Plumley’s face. Even now that he is dead. That was one tough son of a bitch.
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> With \*that \*for a name, he’d have to be.

You should see his son, Sue.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/369 "2013-05-26T07:25:00Z")

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The family of the Marine who held the umbrella has spoken out and neither they nor their son seems to understand what all the fuss is about.

[http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/beth-kassab/os-marine-holding-umbrella-for-obama-is-from-apopka-20130520,0,4132370.post](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/beth-kassab/os-marine-holding-umbrella-for-obama-is-from-apopka-20130520,0,4132370.post)

I’ll be interested to see Sicks Ate’s reaction to this embarrassment of a Marine who disgraced himself, his family, and the Corps by allowing himself to be humiliated while being too stupid to understand that he was being humiliated.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/370 "2013-05-26T11:24:41Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> I’ll be interested to see Sicks Ate’s reaction to this embarrassment of a Marine who disgraced himself, his family, and the Corps by allowing himself to be humiliated while being too stupid to understand that he was being humiliated.

In post #225 Sicks Ate claimed he would be out of touch for about ten days. Mayhaps he is waiting for us to forget this little contretemps?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/371 "2013-05-26T12:50:16Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> In post #225 Sicks Ate claimed he would be out of touch for about ten days. Mayhaps he is waiting for us to forget this little contretemps?

I thought the OP showed he’s already out of touch.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/372 "2013-05-26T13:53:56Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> The family of the Marine who held the umbrella has spoken out and neither they nor their son seems to understand what all the fuss is about.
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> [http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/beth-kassab/os-marine-holding-umbrella-for-obama-is-from-apopka-20130520,0,4132370.post](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/beth-kassab/os-marine-holding-umbrella-for-obama-is-from-apopka-20130520,0,4132370.post)
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> I’ll be interested to see Sicks Ate’s reaction to this embarrassment of a Marine who disgraced himself, his family, and the Corps by allowing himself to be humiliated while being too stupid to understand that he was being humiliated.

I think it’s nice they only see it as “kind of petty” - which is is. because, if they were prone to take offense they could easily see the OP as offensive.

which it is.

I would guess Sicks Ate is too cowardly to address this.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/373 "2013-05-26T21:41:13Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> I’ll be interested to see Sicks Ate’s reaction to this embarrassment of a Marine who disgraced himself, his family, and the Corps by allowing himself to be humiliated while being too stupid to understand that he was being humiliated.

I’m sure there are a lot of people who’d say “of course he’s not revealing his true feelings! He’d be court martialed if he told the TRUTH of how he REALLY felt about the condescending and humiliating order given to him by Nobama!”

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/374 "2013-05-26T22:06:37Z")

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Late as usual, but I’m posting to mention that today I went on a motorcycle run with a bunch of Marines, some active duty and some retired.

I asked their thoughts and they all thought that the kerfluffle was really stupid. According to them, you have to be the best of the best to be allowed the honor of personally serving the POTUS. The only greater honor is to stand in the rain to guard the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/375 "2013-05-27T00:54:22Z")

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Quoting Thread Title: Obama does his best to degrade a couple of Marines. Next episode: Wipers!

So let me understand your hate filled paranoid mind… Our President, a (gasp) Black man, cant stand the Whitey. Or perhaps he can’t stand the Marines. Something. He can’t stand something. According to your thread title, our President is going to demonstrate this using the best of his abilities. Not being the first President to have had an umbrella held for him, and for a visiting leader, is “…doing his best to degrade a couple of Marines”?  
That’s the best he could do?  
I sure am glad I don’t live in your fucked up world.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/376 "2013-05-27T01:04:00Z")

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To be fair, he probably does have Marines wipe his ass after a dump – I mean, wouldn’t we all prefer to have a servant for that job? But it’s not something he can demonstrate in public.

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/377 "2013-05-27T01:09:29Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> To be fair, he probably does have Marines wipe his ass after a dump – I mean, wouldn’t we all prefer to have a servant for that job? But it’s not something he can demonstrate in public.

And this sort of WTF!!! is just why waited so long to post in this thread. Dude, is this a woosh?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/378 "2013-05-27T01:10:49Z")

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Hey… If I wanted to hire a professional ass wiper and umbrella holder, how would I establish what I would offer as a “competitive” wage and benefits package?

Any of you folks have experience either doing it as a job, or hiring for it?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/379 "2013-05-27T01:39:55Z")

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Mr. Ates is certainly not a clinical moron – he can register for a message board, punctuate sentences, etc. – so I think OP demonstrates the huge power of the Idiocracy now almost running the U.S. Mr. Ates is attracted to Internet blogs which share his economic philosophy (taxes are bad), his understanding of freedom (Obama wants to grab his guns), etc. When the commentators on these blogs tell him to hate Obama for Umbrellagate, he just goes along, confused into thinking these commentators are sincere and sentient humans.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/380 "2013-05-27T03:18:02Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> To be fair, he probably does have Marines wipe his ass after a dump – I mean, wouldn’t we all prefer to have a servant for that job? But it’s not something he can demonstrate in public.

> [@flatlined](#):
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> And this sort of WTF!!! is just why waited so long to post in this thread. Dude, is this a woosh?

Umm, yes?

To be candid, it’s a little disconcerting that you had to ask. Give your kitties some extra snuggles tonight; you sound like you could use the restorative effects.

> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> The family of the Marine who held the umbrella has spoken out and neither they nor their son seems to understand what all the fuss is about.
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> [http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/beth-kassab/os-marine-holding-umbrella-for-obama-is-from-apopka-20130520,0,4132370.post](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/beth-kassab/os-marine-holding-umbrella-for-obama-is-from-apopka-20130520,0,4132370.post)

I’d have been _pissed_ myself (about the kefuffle). _“THIS is what my fifteen minutes of fame consists of? Crap! I wanted it to be winning the Powerball jackpot!”_

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