# Obama does his best to degrade a couple of Marines.  Next episode:  Wipers!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 16, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538 "2013-05-16T18:51:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/21 "2013-05-16T19:12:42Z")

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So, does “Brellaghazi” work for everybody?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/22 "2013-05-16T19:13:30Z")

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- gate.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/23 "2013-05-16T19:14:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …The regulation exists because holding an umbrella makes it more difficult for Marines to salute…

So, not only did he humiliate and degrade them, he forced them to disobey orders! Impeach!

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/24 "2013-05-16T19:14:45Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> So, does “Brellaghazi” work for everybody?

Ursrping-from-sacred-marine-honor-rain-proves-globull-warming-is-Al-Gore-get-rich-quick-scheme-gate.™

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/25 "2013-05-16T19:15:21Z")

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Meh, pair of E3s whose badging suggests they’re still pretty new to the Corps. Holding an umbrella for The Prez is probably the biggest day of their lives since they left Parris Island. My money says this is not even _close_ to the most humiliating thing they’ve done in the last 12 months.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/26 "2013-05-16T19:16:28Z")

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Poor little Republicans. Desperately searching for anything they can to turn into a scandal. Living their miserable lives deperate for another shot of outrage and anger at the black non-Republican who dares to be President.

Must be a horrible existence. 1000 years of darkness indeed, but it seems obvious where that darkness lies. In their own hearts and minds.

You create your own hell on this Earth, folks.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/27 "2013-05-16T19:18:48Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You can push 'em out of a plane, you can march 'em off a cliff, you can send 'em off to die on some God-forsaken rock, but for some reason you can’t ask 'em to hold an umbrella.

Nope. True patriotism only comes in the shape of a flag pin.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/28 "2013-05-16T19:20:47Z")

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Double post. I’d like to blame Obama, but I’ll have to blame my phone instead.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/29 "2013-05-16T19:22:13Z")

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> [@The Great Sun Jester](#):
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> Meh, pair of E3s whose badging suggests they’re still pretty new to the Corps. Holding an umbrella for The Prez is probably the biggest day of their lives since they left Parris Island. My money says this is not even _close_ to the most humiliating thing they’ve done in the last 12 months.

They’re E-4.

> [@Chimera](#):
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> Poor little Republicans. Desperately searching for anything they can to turn into a scandal. Living their miserable lives deperate for another shot of outrage and anger at the black non-Republican who dares to be President.
> 
> Must be a horrible existence. 1000 years of darkness indeed, but it seems obvious where that darkness lies. In their own hearts and minds.
> 
> You create your own hell on this Earth, folks.

Not a republican, and way to throw race into it out of nowhere.

Of course it doesn’t rise to the level of a scandal; it’s just disgraceful and pisses me off.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/30 "2013-05-16T19:23:49Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Not a republican, and way to throw race into it out of nowhere.

Give him a break, he’s trying to understand the absurdity of a mind that created this nonsensical pit. As for me, I’m at a complete loss for an explanation.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/31 "2013-05-16T19:24:06Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Poor little Republicans. Desperately searching for anything they can to turn into a scandal. Living their miserable lives deperate for another shot of outrage and anger at the black non-Republican who dares to be President.
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> Must be a horrible existence. 1000 years of darkness indeed, but it seems obvious where that darkness lies. In their own hearts and minds.
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> You create your own hell on this Earth, folks.

Good call. You’ve outed all republicans as being 100% behind this pitting.

Or are you trying to out do the ops stupidity?

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/32 "2013-05-16T19:25:35Z")

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If Obama had let Erdogan get wet in the rain, the OP and his ilk would have demanded his impeachment for disrespecting an honored guest.

If Obama had paused the conference to move it inside, the OP and his ilk would have demanded an Issa-led investigation into “the coverup” that occurred in the walk from the lawn to the press room.

If Obama had had a Marine hold an umbrella over Erdogan’s head only, and let himself get soaking wet, the OP and his ilk would have shrieked about how Obama can’t present himself with the gravitas the office of the Presidency deserves.

Unless this is a whoosh, in which case, well done.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/33 "2013-05-16T19:25:44Z")

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The Marines are not there as decorations. They’re there to serve the President. I see two of them serving the President in a useful, albeit slightly unusual, way. I really truly can’t get a handle on the outrage here.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/34 "2013-05-16T19:27:37Z")

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OP, you do realize that we _lost a President_ to cold and damp, yes? [William Henry Harrison - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Harrison#Shortest_presidency)

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/35 "2013-05-16T19:29:11Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Thereby creating a new word in Japanese: to “_busharu_”. Its a verb.

_No-no no no no no no-no no  
Nobody can do the **Shing-a-ling**  
Like I do,  
Nobody can do the **Skate**  
Like I do,  
Nobody can do the **Busharu**  
Like I do…_

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/36 "2013-05-16T19:33:46Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> If Obama had let Erdogan get wet in the rain, the OP and his ilk would have demanded his impeachment for disrespecting an honored guest.
> 
> If Obama had paused the conference to move it inside, the OP and his ilk would have demanded an Issa-led investigation into “the coverup” that occurred in the walk from the lawn to the press room.
> 
> If Obama had had a Marine hold an umbrella over Erdogan’s head only, and let himself get soaking wet, the OP and his ilk would have shrieked about how Obama can’t present himself with the gravitas the office of the Presidency deserves.
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> Unless this is a whoosh, in which case, well done.

Fallacious. 1 and 2 wouldn’t ping my radar at all. Just because he does one thing that really makes him look like a shit in my eyes, doesn’t mean that I would be equally incensed at any other possible decision

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/37 "2013-05-16T19:34:54Z")

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Right, someone else would’ve done it. This is an incredibly stupid thing to get pissed off by, and if it pushes your buttons you should invest in new buttons.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/38 "2013-05-16T19:35:19Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Fallacious. 1 and 2 wouldn’t ping my radar at all. Just because he does one thing that really makes him look like a shit in my eyes, doesn’t mean that I would be equally incensed at any other possible decision

The fact that this meaningless event makes you think he looks like a shit is all the proof I need that you are deranged and unable to rationally process information, thus leading me to stand by my original post.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/39 "2013-05-16T19:37:21Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Poor little Republicans. Desperately searching for anything they can to turn into a scandal. Living their miserable lives deperate for another shot of outrage and anger at the black non-Republican who dares to be President.

Heh. Before I clicked on the OP’s link, I made a bet with myself that both those Marines would turn out to be white, and I was right.

Something about seeing a white man perform anything resembling a menial service for a more powerful black man still gets a lot of people choking with visceral rage.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-does-his-best-to-degrade-a-couple-of-marines-next-episode-wipers/658538/40 "2013-05-16T19:43:34Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Heh. Before I clicked on the OP’s link, I made a bet with myself that both those Marines would turn out to be white, and I was right.
> 
> Something about seeing a white man perform anything resembling a menial service for a more powerful black man still gets a lot of people choking with visceral rage.

Ah, of course I’m racist. The only thing that would outrage me more than Obama saying “Can we get some Marines over here?” is “Where the white women at?”

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